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New Member
Canada
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As I start learning more about the grading I keep telling myself "that looks good for its age". Is that a wrong thinking process? Does age matter? Is MS60 the same for a 2000 penny as it is for a 1900 penny?
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Bedrock of the Community
United States
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the grades shouldn't change just because of age, its the circulation that changes the coins look. If its MS-60 when its stored correctly, it should be MS-60 when its taken out even if its 200 years later
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Bedrock of the Community
Canada
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Well.. depends.. a 1900 Cent would have less mintage, than a 2000 cent,so.. in MS, it would be worth more to someone who collects those..  Quote:
Is MS60 the same for a 2000 penny as it is for a 1900 penny ? Edited by SHAFTA9a
01/19/2011 1:40 pm
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Forum Dad
 United States
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Condition and age should be irrelevant to each other. One of the funniest phrases sellers use on ebay is " Mint condition for its age," I just find that hysterical. It's either "mint condition" or it isn't. How old it is matters not. |
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Valued Member
Canada
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However, (and I may be wrong) it was my impression that some years the strike was not as great as others. Therefore I think its possible you could have a year that appears lower in grade however, compared to the other coins struck that same year, is actually a mint 65 coin.
Can anyone clarify this?
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Bedrock of the Community
United States
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Well, I had posted but it appears to have been poofed  Age can affect grade or at least the way a coin is graded in at least one specific circumstance. The first coins produced by the US Mint in the late 1700s/early 1800s were struck on human or animal powered open collar screw presses and planchet production was very crude. Some silver and gold planchets were plugged to add weight or filed to reduce weight while copper planchets might have been corroded before they were even struck into coins(Classic Head Large Cents).You simply cannot grade coins from this era the same way as you grade coins struck on more modern steam or electric powered collar presses that can strike 100 or more coins a minute. However, this is largely irrelevant for Canadian coinage as I do not think any Canadian coins have ever been struck on antiquated screw presses. When minting methods are the same or at least similar, age will play no role in the grade. |
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New Member
 Canada
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Perfect responses. This subject came to mind last night when I went to look at some 1911-1917 nickles and the person selling them told me he grades them at AU-55. I was very suprised but it because they are quite worn and I ask how he gets that and his reply was because they are so old that you wont find them in this condition. I also think that way sometimes but I've been trying not to grade that way.
Thank you all
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Forum Dad
United States
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Well Bio, technically that is not age related, it's production related. Made with the same press yesterday as in the 1700's would make no difference. As related to the OP's statement "that looks good for its age," I don't think your explanation applies. Condition should be compared to the item when it was made, if it was made yesterday or the 1700s should make no difference.
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Valued Member
United States
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Isn't this technical vs. market grading that I have read about?
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Bedrock of the Community
Australia
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Very poor patination affects the value, can it also affect the grade?
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Pillar of the Community
United States
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Yes PCGS will knock a grade down up to two points if the coin has ugly toning
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Valued Member
Canada
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Yes PCGS will knock a grade down up to two points if the coin has ugly toning toning does not change the grade just the eye appeal....  if the coin is going to drop a grade or two for toning I will buy all toned 1948 silver dollars  dip them and resell them  think of the profit |
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Pillar of the Community
 Canada
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ICCS and CCCS do not grade for eye appeal,technical grading only.PCGS and other US TPG's do use eye appeal as a factor in grading.Age and its consequences do not affect technical grading. |
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Pillar of the Community
Canada
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ICCS and CCCS do not grade for eye appeal,technical grading only With the exception of cents, which will (to my knowledge) will never grade MS-65 by Canadian TPG's if they have turned fully brown. PCGS on the other hand will grade MS-65 brown. |
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Valued Member
Canada
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I totally agree with biokemist6 reply
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Valued Member
Canada
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A MS-65 2010 coin should be judged by the same criteria as a 1900 coin. Obviously, supply and demand will dictate price.
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Posted 01/19/2011 1:36 pm
