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My "Questionable Authenticity" Submission - 1909-S Indian

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 Posted 01/20/2011  2:05 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add DVCollector to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply

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Look closely at the shape of the insides of the two loops. They do not match the shape of the inside of the loops of the genuine pieces.
Now I see that--especially the top loop; it's far too closed

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if they made an embossed mintmark from there the reverse must have a heck of a rotation
Honestly, I was baffled by that, but did not consider the electrode process. Collectors owe it to experts who help them spot these fakes.
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 Posted 01/20/2011  2:49 pm  Show Profile   Check vermontensium's eBay Listings Check vermontensium's eCrater Listings Bookmark this reply Add vermontensium to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
That is a fantastic fake MM. If the counterfeiter would have placed it a little higher up, he may have gotten away with it. I'm sure it fooled many people before Rick Snow and PCGS saw it.
I also believe the rim metal was used for that purpose.
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 Posted 01/25/2011  4:40 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add lukkyseven to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
PCGS mind as well lable it fake. I don't think many people would be interested in buying it with that lable.
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Wow. I don't see how the average collector would ever have spotted that as a fake. Would make me worried about buying any high value coins without getting some extra opinions first...I guess that's one of the reasons slabbed coins from reputable TPG often fetch premiums...
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Lukkyseven, PCGS will not label it anything. They will send it back to him "Not Genuine".
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