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1852 Large Cent Authenticity Question.

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So I have an 1852 large cent that I just put in my 7070 and I noticed something I havent seen before. for regulare coins, if you look at the heads, and then flip it over, it will always be rightside up, and if you turn it around then the other side will be upsidedown. makes sense right.... well on my 1852 this is true, but it is not perfect, when I flip the coin around it is not perfectly aligned. if I put it in my album straight when I look at it, then when I look at the tails side of my album, then the picture is a little crooked.

is this normal for coins? I don't know much about old coins so I need to ask. I was thinking that 150 years ago their coin makers may not have been as exact as they are today.
help?
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Probably just a rotated die. it happens
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Pretty common really
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rotated dies are not uncommon up to something around 5 degrees of rotation, anything above that could be noted on a TPG slab I believe. I am no error collector so I am not sure what degree of rotation is needed to actually be noted but I have seen some coins with up to 180 degree of rotation. Its not uncommon for classic coins to have some rotation and some coins its harder to find them without any rotation than it is to find them rotated
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As someone who collects rotations on large cents & Indian cents, I'd like to know exactly how much it is rotated.

Please go to http://www.rotateddies.com/ then click on "Measuring Coins" for a description. Alternatively, please post pics of the obverse & reverse.

Likely, only up to 100 of the 1852 large cents exist with a rotation of 90 to 180 degrees.
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Sorry to hijack here, but my 1854 is rotated about 90 degrees. I suspect it's not uncommon for that date. I'd be interested to hear about your 1852 though.
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oh it is only about 15 to 17 degrees. but I just wanted to see if that was common or not. seems like it is no big deal. and I posted pictures on this forum: https://goccf.com/t/78838

but it does not show the die rotation because I just noticed it.
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Yup, common. up to 15 degrees is within mint tolerance, up to 45 degrees on large cents is common, and 90 degrees or greater are desirable.
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okay thanks for the input :) just wanted to make sure my coin was legit :)
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