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Hi, found this crammed into a penny roll. Its bigger than US and Canadian cents  There's no country reference so I'm wondering where it's from and anything else you might know about this one. Thanks :)   Moved to British Coins forum - Sap |
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 Canada
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Thank you  Very cool to find it in my pennies!! |
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Germany
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The UK does not need its name on the coinage! Think what you will of such arrogance, but hey.
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The UK believes that, if you don't know where Elizabeth II is queen of, you've got no business owning one of her coins.  For centuries, up until 1952, the country's name did appear on the obverse, amongst the abbreviated Latin titles: Elizabeth's first coins read "ELIZABETH II DEI GRA. BRITT. OMN. REGINA F.D.. When the Queen's titles were formally changed in 1953 to reflect the spirit of decolonization prevalent at the time, they decided that "BRITT OMN" ("of all the Britains") was no longer appropriate on the coinage, so it was dropped. Only thing is, they forgot to replace it with some other indication of the country of origin. Don't say "infinitely" when you mean "very"; otherwise, you'll have no word left when you want to talk about something really infinite. - C. S. Lewis
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Yes, verra strange to have no indication of the country. I had wondered if it might be England but thought they don't have pennies, they have "pence" plus that's a very strange Viking-ish looking crown with the chains hanging off the sides and a Hannibal-ish looking face guard   The reverse threw me a lot. I guess you all can tell that I haven't been shopping in England! |
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Here's what The Royal Mint has to say about the reverse: A portcullis with chains royally crowned, being an adaptation of the Badge of King Henry VII And ... one penny but two (or more) pence |
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Canada
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Thanks svslav I got this coin out of two rolls I bought from my pharmacy today. They looked customer wrapped. Also traded in my rolls at the bank and brought home 10 rolls from them too so had fun pulling US and older Canadians out already, to look over. Will post my finds in the found in rolls thread soon :) It really is fun to find foreign coins in penny rolls. That's the 4th? foreign coin I've ever found so far! I was looking at the auctions in here and noticed people auctioning off "lots" of different world coins. One day I may even bid on something if I ever get set up with paypal (down the road I will) It would be fun to have some odd assortment of samples from other places. |
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When I grew up I always thought domestic coins were boring and foreign were cool! When I walked on the street I kept my eyes to the ground hoping to find an exotic coin ... never happened  , just plain dingy domestic coppers. |
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Dottir said:
...I had wondered if it might be England but thought they don't have pennies, they have "pence"...
then svslav said:
... one penny but two (or more) pence It's not quite that simple. In Britain, the word "penny" currently has two different though connected meanings, and each meaning has a separate plural form. There are two more meanings concerning the old pre-decimal penny, but we'll ignore those for now. "Penny" is a unit of currency. The plural in this sense is "pence". Usage: "This apple only cost 20 pence." The abbreviation for pence is "p", similar to the abbreviation for cents is "c" or "¢". Thus, you could also say, "this apple only cost 20p" - and a British local might actually pronounce the symbol as the letter "p" rather than say the word "pence". "Penny" is also the name of a coin of 1p denomination. The plural in this sense is "pennies". Usage: "The only coins I had in my purse were five pennies." This usage of "penny" has no abbreviation. In other words: five pennies will always add up to an amount of money equalling 5 pence, or 5p. But five pence might be comprised of five pennies, it might be a penny and two 2p coins, it might be a single 5p coin. The different forms of plural helps avoid the confusion that can come about with the word "cent". Example: "I went metal detecting and found 51 cents" is ambiguous - did I find a certain amount of coins with a total face value of 51 cents, or did I find 51 one cent coins? Compare: "I went metal detecting and found 51 pence" - no ambiguity, it means "amount of money", not "number of coins". Quote:
that's a very strange Viking-ish looking crown with the chains hanging off the sides and a Hannibal-ish looking face guard
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A portcullis with chains royally crowned, being an adaptation of the Badge of King Henry VII SInce the early 20th century, the portcullis has become the symbol of the British government, specifically of the British Parliament. See also this Parliamentary website. Don't say "infinitely" when you mean "very"; otherwise, you'll have no word left when you want to talk about something really infinite. - C. S. Lewis
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Dottir, I believe one of those people auctioning world coins at the moment is me. :)
I think you are fairly new to collecting, or at least collection non-North American coins, right?
I may have something for you, please PM me.
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Canada
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Sorry Molydeii, I forgot to post a while ago when I sent you an email :)
I had been wondering about the auctions. Seems many coins go for very low affordable prices but the postage costs can be a lot so even if I had paypal etc I've noticed postage costs stamped on the few small packages I've received by mail and some of them are pretty high!!
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