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Here are 2 coins I am assuming both are French , does anyone know what they are and a value if any . Thanks, Matt-    |
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Pillar of the Community
United States
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1st one is a sol, I believe. Dont know values.
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United Kingdom
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First one is a half sol KM# 586.8 Bordeaux mint, second is 5 centimes KM# 635. something, can't see the mint dating from 1795-1798
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Right one is 5 centimes minted in Limoges (mm "I"), I don't see the year, "L'AN ...". Could be 5, translating to 1796/7, or 6, 1797/8, 8, 1799/800, or 9, 1800/1.
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United Kingdom
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OK, so how obvious does a mintmark have to be for me to spot it?  |
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 It cannot be KM# 635, that one doesn't have an oak wreath. The right coin is either KM# 642.6 or KM# 640.7. Krause does not provide enough images to make a distinction. The left coin is one sol, b/c it's slightly bigger than the other coin. So, it is KM# 578.8, VG $2.50, F $5 |
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My Krause gives no sizes for sol & half sol, but there was a sol on my desk. 28mm. Which should make the one pictured 5mm larger than the 5 centime.
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One of KM# 642.6 or KM# 640.7 is an over-struck of the small décime coin. I don't have the KM # for these coins but I would believe KM# 642.6 is the over-strike. The over-strike should be he more expensive coin. Here you have a great example of an over-strike http://www.collection-ideale-cgb.ne...4_007_55.jpgThis one doesn't show any sign of it. |
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... there was a sol on my desk. 28mm.  Fantabulous! Quote:
Which should make the one pictured 5mm larger than the 5 centime. Not at all! We're still talking about different 5 centimes.  The smaller coin, which you pointed out originally, and which is about 5 mm smaller than a sol doesn't have an oak wreath on the reverse! The one that does is about 27 mm, so it is just a pinch smaller than a sol. Can I rest my case? |
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Thanks,maudry, nothing about overstrikes in the Krause, but 642.6 is pricier (and it is listed first).
Very cool example!
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The sol a l'ecu and the 5 centimes both weigh about 10 grams, so a scale could verify which you have. If the 1791 weighs about 5 grams you have a half sol, but based on size comparison I think it's the sol. French copper coin weights in this period are erratic, and even unworn coins will be +/- a gram from theoretical. For the 1791-K sol a l'ecu, I found one in similar condition on french ebay at one euro last November with no buyer. The 5 centimes Limoges has no date, so you can only assume that it is the common l'an 8. Again worth about a euro. Lately I've been getting a lot of quality french coins at bargain prices, mostly from sellers in the USA. Sellers need to stop using Krause and pay attention to Le Franc for real-world pricing! "Two minutes ago I would have sold my chances for a tired dime." Fred Astaire
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01/27/2011 06:47 am
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