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What Do You Consider As A Complete Lincoln Set?

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It sounds like a simple question but.

I am missing three coins in my first Lincoln set. They are 1909-S VDB, 1914-D and the 1981-S Type 2. I am currently working on a second set and am only missing 10 coins.

But I have decided not to collect the proofs in my second set. My first set has all proofs but I do not include varieties like 1955 Double Date as an example. Does the Dansco album have room for all proofs? The way I look at it the mint did not set out to produce error coins so are they part of a complete Lincoln set? I have 2 Wams but I keep them separate at the end of my book in the varieties section.

I look forward to hearing your thoughts.
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I agree on not including errors. One coin is in a gray area for that in my mind. the 1922 no D. Is it an error? I mean they were all minted in Denver, so really there shouldn't be a 1922 Plain. Then again, the mint itself removed the mintmark. It doesn't help that there are weak D strikes. I could never really decide about this coin.
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That is another coin that I do not include in my set. I have a weak D and a regular D in both my sets. I also have a 1955 partial double date. This coin is not recognized by some others call it a poorman's double date.
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That is a question that has been posted more than once.I have 2 holes in my Dansco 8100...the 14-d,and 22 plain.They will stay empty unless I find them in circulation or run into a great deal.Holes are no problem for me...just a reminder that my quest is not over.
My variety set is a little different in that I have purchased a couple for near full value with the thought that I can always sell if I find them.I suppose I live for the hunt and not necessarily the completion.
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I'm not interested in errors either, unless I found one in circulation.
I also don't worry about varieties, all the small date large date stuff,
but again I will put one in the book if I find it.
Maybe if I owned the '09svdb and '31s, the two I am missing, I might become interested in
something like the '70s small date. But right now it doesn't interest me (at least not for $40)
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I am just missing two also..

The '14D & the '09SVDB, and I probably will for a while, I also don't think errors should be included in a full set.
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well I consider my LMC set complete but I dont have the 60,70 and 74 small date in the grade I would like and I would like to have the 72 DDO,83 DDR and the 84 DDO roll finds prefered and the LWC set well thats a diffrent story I am compleate down to 1932
and I am not in a hurry to finish that set
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When I have BU rolls from every date/mint, I'll call it done.
I guess I'd move on to nickels or something sad that like (no offense to you nickleheads).

Seriously...

Every date/mint/strike would certainly make a set but for me grade comes into play. Anything less than 35 just doesn't do it for me. I will buy these.

I'm somewhat interested in varieties as they were meant to be, but I won't go out of my way to get them nor do I consider them "missing" but they are/would be part of my set.

Errors don't call out to me but I am a one-on kinda guy, I'd like an example of each major error type just for giggles. I have a few minor types and other special stuff. They are not part of my set. I have another place for them.



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 Posted 01/30/2011  11:32 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add just carl to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Sort of depends on what you use for an Album. For example my Whitman Albums require the 22 plain as well as the 22D, the 55 Double Die, all the 60's, all the 70S's, All the 82's, the 72 Double Die, 95 Double Die. Naturally all Proofs too.
Not sure about the latest Albums but probably need the 83 Double and the 84 Double Ear in those knowing Whitman. Need about a hundred pages in an Album at this rate. And that is a sort of problem with that brand. If you don't want to collect those oddball coins, you end up with empty slots in your Album.
There is one nice thing though about a Whitman Album. You can add up to about 10 pages in the Lincoln Cent Album.
Some of them are just as nuts with other Albums. I have a Liberty Head Nickel one that requires a 1913. My Liberty Head Dime one requires an 1894S.
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 Posted 01/30/2011  11:38 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add just carl to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply

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Errors don't call out to me but I am a one-on kinda guy, I'd like an example of each major error type just for giggles. I have a few minor types and other special stuff. They are not part of my set. I have another place for them.


You may not be aware of how many that really is. A person, sometimes on this site, coppercoins, has a few books out on just Lincoln Cents. They cover every year of this coin and every year there are all sorts of Double Dies, RPM's, etc. And that doesn't even start to cover all the possibilities as listed on pages 400 and up in the 2010 Red Book. Not sure where you would keep them but you will need something really big.
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I am only doing circulation strikes in my Lincoln set so I am using the Dansco 7100 album. I am missing a few - 1909-S, 1909-S VDB, 1914-D, 1922 Plain and 1970-S Small Date - although there are quite a few upgrades needed for other dates to get to uncirculated (working on the 1920's currently).

Since I am working on an uncirculated set, it will be awhile before I fill the 1909-S, 09-S-VDB and 14-D holes. I really have no plans to fill the 22 plain hole as I don't see it as anything but a die variety and an expensive one at that. I'm not too excited about the 70-S SD either for the same reason but will probably end up filling that hole just because it is not that expensive.
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Just carl: No doubt there's a heap. I was referring to one example of each major error type i.e. one DDO, RPM, off center, clip, Cud, stuck though etc. Trying to get all the different ones is not really my bag (I've changed bags before). Of course, I would take any and all and keep them safe :)

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I think a complete set to me would be all the coins that was meant to be issued by the mint. I think the unintended varieties and different errors are just and add on and keep them separate.
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Johnny1328. When you say all coins issued by the mint, do you mean for circulation and does this also mean the proofs? If the proofs are counted do you consider only the modern proofs. In 1936 proofs were issued along with the regular 1936 coins. State Quarter albums give spots for P & D coins but not the S coins.
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Does the Dansco album have room for all proofs?
The 7100 does not include places for the proof-only issues.

The 8100 does include places for the proof-only issues, but there is a catch in their use of the term proof only...

There is only one hole for each of the 1968-S through 1974-S dates. As you know, there were both business strike and proof issues for San Francisco cents those years. If you want both, you will have to provide an alternate location for the "doubles" (proof and business strike) in those years.
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There is only one hole for each of the 1968-S through 1974-S dates. As you know, there were both business strike and proof issues for San Francisco cents those years. If you want both, you will have to provide an alternate location for the "doubles" (proof and business strike) in those years.


AAAAHHHHHHHHHhhhh. You would have to bring that up. Don't know why but working on 10 Whitman Albums of Lincoln Cents and that never crossed my mind. And with Whitman, no slots for those is odd.
Now that you mention this I realize none of my sets are now omplete as I thought.
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