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My Frankfurt-On-The-Main 1863 Project

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 Posted 06/07/2011  04:10 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add augsburger to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I find it interesting. I do not really have much to add other than envy. Never heard of Schaumberg-Lippe. Lippe I know, as I have spent time in Detmold. German coins are so interesting (and expensive, as the Germans like collecting and model railways more than anything else in the world, other than beer and big slabs of meat)
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 Posted 06/07/2011  04:43 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Bacchus2 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Hi - thanks for that - I'll keep going.

Unfortunately you are right - they are expensive - that last one was embarrasingly so - I can't tell my wife just how much :)

It is however all funded by my selling old rubbish on ebay - so I'm managed to do all this so far without really spending anything - but there has been a lot of hard work.

I really like these coins - they are substancial hunks of silver and have a lot of history associated with them.

all the best ..
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 Posted 06/07/2011  04:43 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add chrisild to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Schaumburg-Lippe used to be a state of the German Empire. After the end of that empire it joined the state of Lower Saxony (Niedersachsen); the area is now part of Schaumburg county. Lippe (next door so to say) is a county in the neighboring state of North Rhine Westphalia. As for the beer-and-meat stuff, that seems to be somewhere between rumor, truth and stereotypes. ;) As for model railways, well, if you ever go to Hamburg, make sure you see Miniatur Wunderland. But I digress ...

Bacchus2, I realize that this topic looks like a monolog, but I do enjoy seeing such a theme project grow. So unless taking the photos gets too time consuming for you, please continue to post your "Frankfurt 1863" related acquisitions!

Christian
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 Posted 06/17/2011  2:07 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Bacchus2 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Another acquisition - not quite for the grid - but it's of a similar age and size

My-Frankfurt-On-The-Main-1863-Project

I got it for $70 + some IT work I did for a dealer - so I think it was a good deal.

Louis XVIII
1821 5 Francs
Ob. LOUIS XVIII ROI DE FRANCE
Rev. 5 F
Ed. DOMINE SALVUM FAC REGEM
Silver 0.9000
25g

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 Posted 06/21/2011  09:40 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Jdgarst0720 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Hey Bacchus- This thread is VERY appretiated. I love the old german Thalers and do not have the money to put into it, but I can enjoy seeing them here, and learning. I spent 8 1/2 years working in Germany and traveled alot. I did not have much money or info, so not much coin collecting other than euros.

Now, I am starting to get a few coins. I received a beautiful 3 mark Prussian coin from another CCF member: thanks Christian!
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 Posted 06/21/2011  1:24 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Bacchus2 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Hi,

Thanks for the support - I'll certainly keep going. I'm hoping the thread will really be about that particular photo and the associated coins - but undoubtedly the odd peripheral one will creep in.

And I can't afford them either :) -- so I'm really ringfencing funds I raise through selling old stuff on ebay, and a few other sources. It's really hard work - but I think it makes me appreciate them more.

There is something very satisfying about these coins - not just the German ones but all the large silver crowns of the time. It's kind of a pity that everyone else thinks so too - hence the high prices.

I did buy another one recently - but don't have it in hand yet - another peripheral one - but quite nice I think. I'll post it when I get it.

The one question I really have that I don't know the answer to is how many of those Lichtenstein thaler restrikes were made. I've even Googled the minters but I think they have been taken over by a bank. I might e-mail the bank just to see if they know anything.

Glad people are enjoying the thread :)

Malcolm

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 Posted 06/23/2011  4:16 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Bacchus2 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Another addition. Not a rare coin but I got it for quite a reasonabe amount

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Francis II
1795 1 Crocione (Kronenthaler)
Ob. FRANCISC II D.G.R.I.S.A GER. HIE. HVN. BOH. REX
Franz II Die Gratia, Romanorum Imperator Semper August, King of Germany, Jerusalem, Hungary and Bohemia.
Rev. ARCH. AVST. DVX. BVRG. LOTH. BRAB. COM. FLAN
Archduke of Austria, Duke of Burgundy, Lorraine and Brabant, Count of Flanders
Edge: LEGE ET FIDE
Silver
0.8730 29.40g
mintage: -
Mint: Milan (KM239)
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 Posted 07/01/2011  4:20 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Bacchus2 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I've been lucky enought to get another coin to add to my page.

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Not a particually rare coin when seen in company with some of the others but it's in nice condition.


Frederick Augustus III
1913 3 Mark
Ob. FRIEDRICH AUGUST KOENIG V. SACHESEN
Rev. DEUTCHES REICH 1913 DREI MARK
Ed. GOTT MIT UNS
Silver 0.9000
16.6670g
mintage: 307,000
Mint: E (Muldenhutten)
MM: KM1267

This is how it stands at present --- still lots to do ....

http://www.diadumenian.com/Congress...princes.html




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07/01/2011 4:38 pm
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 Posted 07/02/2011  07:10 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add thai-vic to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Malcolm

Just to offer my praise and encouragement. It's a wonderful project/thread/website. Can't offer any insights but I'm certainly learning a lot from it. More power to your elbow and more pennies to your purse.
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 Posted 07/03/2011  9:09 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Nic to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Wow Bacchus, that picture and your collection thread is very interesting, I also collect German coins, specifically the German States - up to 1915 the silver 5 marks in VF-EF only

Progress is slow as the price is a little bit stiff, but highly satisfying. Only got 5 as of now, the Bavaria, Prussia, Hamburg, Wurttemberg, & Saxony

but we're basically on the same thread, keep up your posts Bacchus & good luck on your coin hunting!
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 Posted 07/06/2011  3:06 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Bacchus2 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
A new purchase - not really in keeping with the "project" - though another one there is on it's way - a beauty too...

I got this one purely on the price, even though it's quite worn (it was £40). Again it's not a scarce coin but it is an expensive coin to get in higher grades. It fits in with tce "crowns from European Royalty" which I guess is a longer term project I have in the back of my mind for once the Frankfurt project is ended.

If anyone can help me with the bust type it would be appreciated - I don't have very good references for this period other than the Krause. I think it's the third bust btw.

My-Frankfurt-On-The-Main-1863-Project

William III
1696 1 crown
Ob. GVLIELMVS III DEI GRA
Rev. MAG BR FRA ET HIB REX
Edge: Regnal year in words (I think)
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 Posted 07/12/2011  6:31 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Bacchus2 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Another space on the grid filled ... sort of ...

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Leopold IV
1870 1 Thaler
Ob. LEOPOLD FRIEDRICH HERZOG VON ANHALT
Rev. HERZOGTHUM ANHALT GETHEILT 1603 VEREINT 1863 EIN THALER 30 EIN PF.F.
Edge: GOTT SEGNE ANHALT
Silver 0.9000
Weight: 18.52g, 33mm
mintage: 50,000
Mint: Berlin


This coin is of Leopold who sent his son to the congress instead of attending himself. As Frederich issued neither a thaler nor a 3-Mark coin I have had to use this image to fill the spaces for both his father and himself. (He did issue 2-Mark and 5-Mark coins, but they are very expensive)


-- I actually think my website host is haveing a few issues at the moment, at least I can't connect.

thanks for looking..

Malcolm
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 Posted 07/25/2011  2:43 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Bacchus2 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I've managed to get another crown sized contempory coin to add to this general theme. Alas not one I can add to the main page of the project but quite a nice coin none-the-less

Belgium 1853 Leopold 5 Francs

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 Posted 07/30/2011  1:23 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Bacchus2 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Another coin added to the general theme - just a common Bavaria 3 Mark - but it does have another "rulers" image on it.

My-Frankfurt-On-The-Main-1863-Project

This time the Prince Regent Luitpold - who was the nominal ruler of the Kingdom due to the mental incapacity of both Ludwig II and Otto.

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07/30/2011 1:24 pm
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 Posted 08/11/2011  02:33 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Bacchus2 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Another crown sized addition. Not German but French - of Louis Philippe.

My-Frankfurt-On-The-Main-1863-Project

It shows some wear on the face but it wasn't an expensive coin and it fits in well with the general time period.

I hope to get a proper addition to the "photograph" next time.

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