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I bought a collection and almost all of the copper cents Half Cents and so on have something like this on them. Is there anyhting that can be done that does not hurt the intregrity or value of the coin? Thanks a lot. Also can someone PM me I don't think mine works.
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dont know if that is PVC or verdigris but I did sent you a test PM
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Don't know but you may want to ask over in the classic coin forum, this is for moderns.
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If they all look like that, then you have corrosion problems. That is pretty severe and you would not be able to do much without further damaging the coin.
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Once you get it out of the flip, see if its slimy pvc buildup. I would not use acetone on copper due to the purple haze it sometimes causes. I would use gloves and xylol(paint thinner). Its toxic but isn't nearly as reactive with salts that may be on the coin. If its verdigris BadThad has an agent that works well, especially if corrosion hasn't set in. nlp
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I took it our of the flip. I doesn't feel slimy (I'm not sure what PVC is) here are better pics:
In This state what is a coins lost value because of the corrosion or what not?
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definite verdigris, looks to be some pitting too.Looks to be environmental damage of some sort to me.
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I doesn't feel slimy (I'm not sure what PVC is)
Well, technically it is not PVC, it is the plasticizer used to make PVC soft.

PVC, in its natural state, is a solid; think PVC plumbing pipe. It is just easier to say PVC than it is to say phthalates.

The plasticizers leech out over time. While they can evaporate, become airborne, and redeposit, direct contact (think coin in a PVC flip) will always do the most damage in the least amount of time.

While I am basing this on what I see from the photo (my opinion could change when seeing it in hand), it looks like you have verdigris.
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Should I try getting an agent to clean it or should I just keep it the way it is. Also how does it affect the value?
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Interesting piece. Are those scratches or die cracks on the OBV? I had some that I have been soaking in mineral oil for awhile now. The verdigris is lifting off using that method but it takes a long time.
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Just mineral oil I could pick up at Walmart?
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Looks to be a metal detector find and yes, that looks to be verdigris. It is definitely considered environmental damage.
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It is just easier to say PVC than it is to say phthalates.


Careful with the testy language, you.


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Looks to be a metal detector find and yes, that looks to be verdigris. It is definitely considered environmental damage.


Absolutely. 100% correctable at this stage? No. These are what they are, and value takes a serious hit as a result.
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Just mineral oil I could pick up at Walmart?


Yes, the kind you take to get your bowels back on track. Don't confuse it with mineral spirits in the paint aisle. I learned this trick from the CCF and it works but like I said, it takes a long time depending on how much verdigris there is. When done I wash it off with hot water and air dry.
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I am still new to this aspect of the hobby, but I would love to see what VERDI-CARE would do for it.

I am sure it will remove the green, but also reveal the corrosion (pitting) beneath.
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