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Just to preface my post, I don't really collect US but I am trying to gather a type set of US coinage for the 20th century (which is what I collect worldwide). anyway, I would love some thoughts on the grading of this 1913 Quarter. I'm thinking somewhere in the Good range but would love a little education in this area as well so if you wouldn't mind, could you give me some 'reasons' for the grade. Again, I'm not looking to argue but rather learn. Thank you so much

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 Posted 02/12/2011  12:16 am  Show Profile   Check vermontensium's eBay Listings Check vermontensium's eCrater Listings Bookmark this reply Add vermontensium to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
G6. Rims are a bit weak and slightly too much wear to warrant VG8, thats my opinion. 3 letters of LIBERTY have to be there. Looks nice and original.
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I agree with G6. A G4 coin will usually have little more than outlines for Liberty's portrait and the eagle. There is some remaining detail around Miss Liberty's ear and some of the leaves are visible on the wreath. Likewise there is some feather detail on the eagle. That plus the complete rims makes it a "choice" Good. To make VG-8 you need those 3 letters of LIBERTY as Vermontensium points out. Your coin appears to have part of the L and Y; close, but not quite there.
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I agree. Sooooo close to VG-8. Perfect for the grade with no major marks.
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I'll say VG-8 but not strong, I think you should be pretty close to the LIBERTY requirement if you look closer. I imagine you'll have more than just LY. Looks like maybe a little bit of T and the overall detail is more consistent with VG than G.
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thank you all so much. this is very helpful. I'm not looking to over grade, just learn and this has been very educational for me. In terms of what else I can see on the LIBERTY, I can see an ever so small (and I do mean small) amount of the T and I but I'm not thinking this raises any grade. It seems as I read over other posts, that the grading is almost very specific to each coin type i.e. on this quarter, the LIBERTY is a key element. I know this probably sounds pretty routine for you all but for me, this is new news!! Thanks again
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I have quite a few Barber quarters and I agree with the Good-6 grade. Your coin is very close to Very Good-8, but there would have to be at least 3 letters in Liberty showing and the rim on the reverse would have to be more complete.

Also you have a 1913-D quarter which means that the coin was minted in Denver. The mint mark can be seen under the eagle's tail feathers.
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Weavus,

The grading is very specific to the type of coin, but watch out for being too concerned about one attribute. In general, LIBERTY is a benchmark for grading many coins. However (not in this case, but on other pieces) there can be other attributes like striking characteristics, luster, overall detail is stronger than that specific attribute, etc. For example, you will have some Seated Liberty coins with a weak liberty and XF+ details because of the striking. People are tempted to call them F-15, but they will usually get at worst a VF-35 in true grade...which means that if that main attribute is weak, it does count against an otherwise better detailed coin, but doesn't drag it down singlehandedly.

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A very nice G-7. Not an actual grade, but just a hair below VG-8. Beautiful coin and a perfect example for your 20th century type set.
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again thanks to all. I was quite pleased when I received it. Got it for a very nice price as well. I can see I have a lot to learn should I dive a whole lot deeper into US silver!
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