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What Is This? A Token?

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 Posted 02/12/2011  08:57 am Show Profile   Bookmark this topic Add apostrophe to your friends list Get a Link to this Message Number of Subscribers
hello. can you help me about this token. what was it used for and who was used it by? have you got any idea about its price and is it rare ? tahnks a lot

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 Posted 02/13/2011  5:37 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add odentheviking to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
OK this should be fun!! Let me put my "Sherlock Holmes" cap on and we will deduct!

The word "KISMET" in Turkish means: "n. destiny, foreordination, lot, fate, chance, fortune, kismet, fatality, inning, innings, portion, predestination, shot".

So it is called "Club Destiny", the place YOU sould be!

Trabzon is a town,(and a gathering or rivers), in Northern Turkey on the Black Sea, a shipping town that was founded by the Greeks in 756, but mostly used by the Ottomans in the 1100 to 1400 range as it was on the famous "Silk Road". This port became a focal point of trade to Iran, India and the Caucasus.

"1009 E. Baltimore St. Baltimore Md." If looked up on Google maps is just a few blocks from Baltimore's famous "Harbour" and I am sure was a big trade/business center in the early 1900's.

So one could deduct that this token was intended to be used at the Club Kismet only, as for the "Use in U.S. Forbidden", that it was worth 5c and this was some form of Tradeing Co. between Turkey and the U.S. or some form of Turkish Bar.

But you know hey .....that's just a guess!
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 Posted 02/13/2011  9:19 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add jakeW to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Amazing deduction you've done there!
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 Posted 02/14/2011  4:10 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add odentheviking to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
"Elementary" my dear jakeW!

Many years ago when my father passed away we found several of these style tokens in his sock draw. Mostly "Busty Betties" and flipper "Heads You Win", "Tails you lose" coins. It was fun to try and figure where you got someof them!
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 Posted 02/14/2011  9:36 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add biggfredd to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
OK, Sherlocks, here's one I can't find on the Interwebs:

Oval (not elongated), wide as a SBA/Loonie, high as a cent, brass

Oliver's/cafe/decoursey,KY beads around the edge, indented at K3 and K9

Good for/5¢/in trade
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 Posted 02/15/2011  1:47 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add odentheviking to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
OK, It seems that Decoursey, Ky. is in Kenton County, just South of the Cincinnati metro area. The community was named for William DeCoursey, settler. It is also off Hwy 75, but it is several miles off of Hwy 75 so I would say that "Oliver's Cafe" was no truck stop.
"DeCoursey" is not a town, it is more of an area. The most important thing there is the "DeCoursey Interlocker". This was a large train yard ,switching station, and crew transfer center on the former Louisville and Nashville RR mainline from Cincinnati to Corbin, Kentucky. It was constructed in the late 1850's by the Kentucky Central Railroad. Playing a significant role in supplying and moving troops during the Civil War, it later became an important coal route for the L&N.

So, It seems to me that "Oliver's Cafe" is a track side dinner/bar that caterers to the track workers that gather there to change shifts at the DeCoursey Yard. Being that the standard price of a cup of coffee w/sugar and cream was 5c during the Great Depression, AND that many Dinners would offer a 5c token then, if you got a meal, this Diner/bar was open during the 1930's also the height of the Coal years for the L&NRR. I would say that this Diner/Bar did a very good business because only a few places could order special tokens, many just c/s'ed other coins.
As for the "indented" areas, I don't know, maybe the supplier also gave some special machine that kicked these coins out, but they did not want you to put your own quarters or large cents in there?

How about a picture of this token biggfredd?


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 Posted 02/15/2011  3:00 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Flook to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I just wanted to say that vikings deductions are pretty amazing.....from basic information to a very well educated guess.
Pretty interesting to read
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 Posted 02/15/2011  3:20 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add northwestseeker to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Wow...we should put on a show with Viking as the main attraction...
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 Posted 02/15/2011  7:10 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add odentheviking to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Quote: "Wow...we should put on a show with Viking as the main attraction..."

I can whistle and hum at the same time.....while I play the tamborine?!!
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 Posted 02/15/2011  9:16 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add biggfredd to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
By indented, I mean the bead design, not the token. The design comes in, not the planchet.
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 Posted 02/15/2011  9:20 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add biggfredd to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Thanks to all, especially oden. Wondering if I have an unknown/unlisted item.
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 Posted 02/16/2011  4:30 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add odentheviking to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Not sure about an "unknown/unlisted" coin there biggfredd. The only token site I know of is this one:
http://tokencatalog.com/index.php

If you look under "Ky" then search for "decoursey", three tokens come up but none for "Oliver's Cafe". So you may have something special there! You could always contact this site and send them pictures of what you found.
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 Posted 02/16/2011  8:24 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add biggfredd to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Thanks for the link!
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