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Liquidating Silver World Coins

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I, like so many others. Have accumulated a bunch silver world coins. I wanted to get the forums opinion. Is it relatively easy selling world coins for their silver content to dealers or is the only way to market them is through a auction setting. Is the market spun more favorably to the U.S. coins with a .900 fineness? Any help would be greatly appreciated.
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 Posted 02/13/2011  03:28 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add mitchhailey to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Personally, I feel that the market favors US silver coin. People are fairly comfortable buying/selling US coinage simply due to its popularity and widely known compositions.

Even my coin dealer up here in western Washington state has a hard time selling foreign silver. As a matter of fact he complained when buying the bulk of my foreign silver coins (although he did buy them).

I often see the foreign silver coins stagnate in all my local coin shops, probably due to the fact that your average silver buyer does not know the composition of the coins, or if he/she does, probably wants a coin with a higher percentage of silver per coin (something lacking in most foreign silver compared to US coins).
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 Posted 02/13/2011  06:49 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Peter THOMAS to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
it is my observation that American coins are most popular in America;
Canadian coins in Canada;
etc, etc.

Rasta: why not put them up as an item on CCF - plenty of darksiders here ...

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 Posted 02/13/2011  08:54 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add northwestseeker to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
i would definitely, be interested! I like the ccf auction idea!
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Not necessary true. You might have better luck on ebay (not joking) and silver coins from Russia and China in particular are insane hot at the moment. Just list what you got and you might have better luck.
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 Posted 02/13/2011  11:41 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add pls to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I'd be interested - depending on what I have already in the collection.
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 Posted 02/13/2011  2:27 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add brokencompass to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
IMHO, it depends on the nature and the grade of the silver coins you have. Sometimes the silver value is higher than the numismatist value and sometimes otherwise. You may want to lookup the coin on ebay in "Completed Listings" to get an idea of the price trend.

If you have any silver coins from India, I would love to take a look at them.
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I think modern coins with known silver content are easiest to sell for melt.
I've sold common Canadian silver easily. Older silver world coins may be tougher to sell for BV.
For instance, that Jaipur Rupee is silver, but the fineness is unknown to me.
Hopefully you keep that one, because I think Indian coins that old are restricted exports.
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 Posted 02/13/2011  6:10 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add rastatodd to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
The rupee I purchased from DVCollector. He referred to "restricted exports". What is he referring to?
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I believe he's talking about the fact that the Indian government is banning the export of older Indian coins from the country, which results in a shortage of the Indian coins for worldwide collectors.
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 Posted 02/13/2011  6:42 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add DVCollector to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Slav,
That sounds right to me, thanks! Enjoy that Jaipur Rupee--it will ship on Monday.
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Thanks to all that replied. That is why I like belonging to the CCF. It is a place to gain the knowledge that one needs to be successful in the hobby of kings. Thanks again!
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 Posted 02/14/2011  11:16 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add swamperbob to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
While US and Canadian silver is most popular do not let anyone tell you that they can not sell foreign silver.

What do the local silver buyers pay in YOUR location?

In Raleigh, NC I get 85% of spot based on actual weight for any coin silver - worn, holed, bent, cut, burned etc as long as you can tell the original country and era,

I am wondering if we could use the forum membership to determine where the best place to sell is.
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 Posted 02/15/2011  06:42 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add rastatodd to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I haven't tried to sell at this time. I'm accumulating for a hedge against a falling dollar. And raising interest rates, when that happens. Just didn't want to put my money into foreign coin silver if there is no chance of selling it when that time comes. I think if people on this forum would contribute information about various selling venues, that would be great!
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I recently subscribed to Numismaster.com to check values of some of my silver world coins. I did notice that the ASW (actual silver weight) x spot is more than the catalog value for some coins in Fine grade. I would think it should be at least the same as bullion value. I understand that a refinery would pay less but I guess its like the US nickel with 75% copper/25% nickel worth $.07
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There are several problems with foreign silver.

Unless you just buy them and throw them in a bucket until you get enough to justify refining, you need to keep track of both different weights and finenesses. That means 999, 925, 900, 833, 800, 750, 720, 500, and many more. To figure what they're worth at any given moment, you have to calculate each of those into pure ounce equivalents before multiplying by spot.

Even if you are just going to melt them, refiners usually have different pay schedules for different purity, for example, more money paid for .800 fine or better. Let some billon coins slip in a mix, and you can easily drop your end fineness below 800 and get the lower % on everything.

This all assumes you sell direct to a refiner. If you sell to a dealer, he's prolly only interested in 90/40/35 or 925/80/50,if Canadian. Another catch is that the lower the silver content, the more crap has to be refined out, which takes more time and chemicals.

Take warnix (350). Silver content is $1.84, or $7350 per bag of 4000. A major dealer lists $6055 as his SELL price; almost 18% under melt.

Clad halves (400). Silver content is $4.83, $9660 per bag. The same dealer pays $8740, or about 9.5% under melt.

Regular silver (900). Melt is $23,626 per bag, buy price $22,040, only 6.7% back.

Considering warnix have been popular for 50 years, and they sell for 18% back, how much of a hit do you think you'll take on some oddball stuff?
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