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NGC Warns Collectors About Counterfeit Varieties

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I just saw this in my NGC newsletter that the counterfeiters are now expanding to the variety sector with made up varieties thinking the seller will think they are purchasing a new unlisted variety and bring them in more money

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Counterfeiters Expand Their Wares to Varieties
Posted on 2/15/2011

Counterfeiters produce Indian cent variety, while there is no genuine cent of that date with matching characteristics.

The list of known counterfeit USA coins continues to grow, but with a new twist. Not content to produce simply every possible date/mint combination, the fakers have now added a unique Indian cent variety. This coin appears to be an 1869 with a boldly repunched 9 in its date, yet there is no genuine cent of that date having such a spectacular spread between the first and second numerals. Such a discovery would be a major development for Indian cent collectors, were this coin not such an obvious fake.
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Bearing all the hallmarks of the Chinese counterfeits plaguing the hobby, this coin is readily spotted as a phony by its indistinct denticles and puffy, dull-edged numerals and lettering. While most such counterfeits are offered in gem, fully red uncirculated condition, what makes this phony so disturbing is that it has been very skillfully aged to look like a vintage coin. A novice could easily be fooled into believing it to be genuine. Indeed, the person who submitted it to NGC for grading and variety attribution almost certainly thought it to be real.

here is a link if anyone wants to read it from the source http://www.ngccoin.com/news/viewart...ticleID=1077
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The counterfeiters are getting clever by targeting 1869--well-known for those RPDs, but less so on exact details.
As noted above, that date looks unlike any other IHC RPD, but I'm sure these fakes will only get more convincing.

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I only have a few. Guess I'd better start reading.
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I think one of the biggest red flags on this fake is the appearance of the 1869/9.
Normally, when a date is re-punched into an IHC die, the date area is polished to remove most of the prior date.
The prior date is only visible as a remnant where the date punch sunk deeper into the die; you never see a complete digit.
If anyone can explain this better, please do.

Here's a picture of Snow-1 1894/1894--a good example of how a prior date was polished away, leaving fragments of 1894.
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