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Okay well at the coin shop today.
Picked up a WWII set that had a Silver Jefferson a 43 wheat a 44 and 45 wheat. Just liked the looks of them. Nice toning etc etc.
Now they list the 44 and 45 as a Shell casing wheat. Just a marketing ploy?
I like the coins for the coins gonna go great in the Dansco if and when I get another.
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Pillar of the Community
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Not a marketing ploy in that it is true for 1944 through 46...they were made from salvaged cartridge cases.
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Pillar of the Community
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definately true, and everyone said no one recycled back then...  |
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Bedrock of the Community
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Shell case brass they were. Copper (95%) and zinc (5%). No tin in those babies!
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United States
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Yep, no tin, just reverence.
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I have quite a few of em  |
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Pillar of the Community
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I've been imaging finding matching sets in a contrasting color from the other 40's just to make them stand out but I have to work the early set.
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I thought they had more than just 5% zinc but only because a zinc content that low really does not make a true brass and I thought they were a true brass, made from only recycled casings which I would expect to be much more than 5% zinc. I suppose the mint could have added copper to the casings to bring up the copper content. At 5% (whether it is all zinc, all tin, or a combination) what you really have is just a copper alloy, not a true brass or bronze (although the term bronze can apply to almost any non-pure copper alloy, no matter what the other elements are and no matter what the percentages are). With the non-copper content at 5% you get hardened copper, not really a brass or a bronze. Classic yellow brass is 60/40 copper/zinc and classic red brass is 85/15.
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Darth Anarchus Quote:
definately true, and everyone said no one recycled back then...  edit: I don't know how to quote...... Edited by nismojones
02/18/2011 09:39 am
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I don't know how to quote...... I fixed it for you.  |
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Classic yellow brass is 60/40 copper/zinc and classic red brass is 85/15. True they aren't a classic yellow or red brass, but a brass is any alloy of copper and zinc that doesn't contain tin. If it has tin in it it is cansidered a bronze. If there are other metals besides tin or zinc the metal is usually named for the other major component metal. For example the outer layers on the small size dollars are manganese brass. Many world coins are made of an alloy of copper, tin, and aluminum, aluminum bronze. |
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I read an interesting article that shell casings were not used (recycled) to make the coins. It was government marketing that made everyone feel good at the time. The content was changed but not really made or at least very few actually made from shell casing. Terrell  |
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I read an interesting article that shell casings were not used (recycled) to make the coins. It was government marketing that made everyone feel good at the time. The content was changed but not really made or at least very few actually made from shell casing.
Terrell I've read about Bigfoot in an article on the Internet. Are you just stirring up the pot? |
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A little of both (truth & stirring) CEOcoinshop. Can't remember the exact reference, but seemed credible at the time. The point was the amount of cases needed and the cost to recycle was not practical to produce cents.
Terrell
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I am not finding anything credible in my search.
It could have been a dubious claim with faulty math.
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CCF coin facts calls them bronze  I think the following About snippet sums it up. Quote:Lincoln Pennies Made From Melted BulletsOne of the more enduring myths about the Lincoln Cent is that the postwar pennies were all made from melted bullets, artillery shells, and other copper-based military findings. Although it is true that the U.S. armed forces enacted policies to recover spent shell casings and to conserve other copper and tin waste, the reasons probably had more to do with overall conservation of scarce metal resources than a worry about what to make pennies out of. Nonetheless, a quantity of spent shell casings eventually did make their way to the Mint, which contributed to the brass coining alloy used for Lincoln Cents in 1944 through 1946. In 1947, the Lincoln Cent alloy returned to the bronze composition used before the war. Ref: http://coins.about.com/od/famousrar..._cents_2.htmEdited by timsumrall
02/22/2011 5:04 pm
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