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1879 S Morgan

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Another one I'm having difficulty grading. It has mint luster on both sides, but only in the fields, some marks on Liberty's cheek, and the breast feathers show wear. Any opinions?

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 Posted 09/23/2006  10:33 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add SsuperDdave to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
EF45, considering the expected quality of an 1879-S.
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The expected quality of an 1879-S? Can you expand on that a little more, and what factors determined the grade you assigned it?
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Ralph,
The 1879-S is usually a very well struck coin and typically very brilliant and very lustrous.Yours is showing some wear in the hair from above the ear all the way to the forehead and on the breast feathers and legs of the eagle.Plus the two pretty good hits near the mouth and one on the ear of Miss Liberty. I usually don't grade scans because they take so much away from the actual coin,but I would have to say somewhere in the EF45 range.
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here is a MS-67 to compare with

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Got it - as I said in another post, comparing my scan with a photo of an identical, well struck, higher grade coin is an education in itself. Thanks.
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Ralph, 1879S with reverse of 79 are usually very well struck. This Morgan has signs of a fair amount of circulation in that the Eagle's breast feathers are almost completely worn smooth and Liberty's hair above the ear is moderately worn. There's also a fair number of rim circulation dings. I'd estimate this to be EF-40, possibly only VF-35 at a top TPG. Since it's a scan, we can't tell on the luster, but any luster would be a plus for the coin.

Still, there's no such thing as a "bad" Morgan !

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Terry explained it very well and Bryan illustrated it with a typically very well struck 79S (although I think the MS-67 is pushing it a little; betcha PCGS wouldn't give it the same grade today ).

I think you're looking at a mid-range circulation grade if you plan to get it slabbed. It's a throw of the dice these days with the top TPGs, but I think we're looking at a range of VF-35 to EF-45.

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Fred - No, I won't get it graded and slabbed - too costly for the condition of the coin.
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