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1774 Coin - Identification Help Please!

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 Posted 02/20/2011  7:32 pm Show Profile   Bookmark this topic Add Auntiedo2u to your friends list Get a Link to this Message Number of Subscribers
The pictures show a very worn coin - but the date 1774 is visible, as well as some markings on the back. This was found at a 1700's plantation by an 84 year old relic hunter (an old friend of mine), but no one has been able to identify what it might be. Any suggestions would be appreciated!

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1774-Coin---Identification-Help-Please!

1774-Coin---Identification-Help-Please!
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 Posted 02/20/2011  8:46 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add pls to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I have no clue - but thanks for posting excellent photos!
Oh, and

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 Posted 02/20/2011  11:21 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Numismat to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Hi,

What is the size or weight of this coin?

This looks similar to a countermarked 4 bits (3 shillings, 3 pence) from Dominica. These bits were also typically stamped on Spanish colonial coins. If this is indeed what it is, it would be a very valuable coin, like this one:
http://www.coinarchives.com/w/lotvi...aec7b2f1f89f
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 Posted 02/20/2011  11:27 pm  Show Profile   Check vermontensium's eBay Listings Check vermontensium's eCrater Listings Bookmark this reply Add vermontensium to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Looks to be Spanish, possibly 1 or 2 Reale. Just my guess.
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 Posted 02/21/2011  07:50 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Auntiedo2u to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Thanks!

The coin weighs 1.4 grams and varies from 15 to 18 mm in diameter.
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 Posted 02/21/2011  1:56 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Numismat to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Unfortunately that is much too light to be a four bits from Dominica.
These coins are closer to the 5 gram range.
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 Posted 02/21/2011  2:45 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Auntiedo2u to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Numismat,

Yes, it is a very thin piece at the edges, and as you can see, most of the markings are worn away. I looked at the link you sent, and the markings on the back are similar to several pieces on that site, so I will continue to search along those lines - Thanks for everyone's help!
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On the c/s stamp side you can see the Spanish coat of arms and one of the Pillars,(on the left), to bad the coat of arms is almost gone and you can not pick out which king it is. 1774 should be for "Carolus III" if this coin was not re-dated? At 1.4 grams it might be closest to a half-Real coin.
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 Posted 02/21/2011  11:30 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Auntiedo2u to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
odentheviking,

Thanks! - I was looking at those worn markings trying to figure out what it could be - so much more detail shows in the photographs than I can see with a magnifying glass - I looked up the half-Real and I can see what you mean by the Pillars, and the size seems to correspond as well. What do you mean by re-dated (other than the obvious)?

Thanks to everyone for your help - the gentleman who found this is very grateful to know what this might be!
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 Posted 02/21/2011  11:33 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Meldude to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I see a S and a V on the obv
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 Posted 02/22/2011  7:04 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add odentheviking to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I was just stateing that unless the coin had been re-dated,(which would be very unlikely), the coat of arms should be for the Spanish King Carolus the III. And you could google other coins of this same date to see what it should look like w/o all the wear. The c/s is one I don't know, also odd that it is stamped w/a "4" as this often meant a re-weight and grade of a "4 Reale".

Great find! Thanks for shareing it with us.
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 Posted 03/06/2011  10:36 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Auntiedo2u to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Can anyone give me some advice/direction on finding the value of this coin (beyond the obvious "cool" factor)? I am trying to help my friend, and have no idea what's the best way to proceed.

Thanks to everyone for helping identify it!!
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