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 Posted 02/22/2011  10:31 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add biggfredd to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply

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I find these slightly off centers all the time and didn't know they had any value! Wow! Seems to be only the obverse off center that I find and never the reverse.


Please don't call these off centers. They're not. Off center coins come from blanks (planchets) that are not in the collar, so the part that is out has no die to hit it, and is left blank.

Misaligned dies are caused by a blank that is where it belongs in the collar, and properly lined up with one die. The other die is off to one side, or misaligned.

I'm not familiar enough with the minting process to be sure, but it may be that only the obverse die can be adjusted horizontally. If so, that would explain why you don't find reverses.

To help illustrate, stack three of the same coin. Let's say the bottom coin is the reverse die, the center the blank, and the top the obverse die. Here are the possibilities:

Perfect straight stack - normal strike
Center coin moved to one side - off center strike
Bottom two coins OK, top coin moved to one side - misaligned die
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 Posted 02/22/2011  10:40 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add timsumrall to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Nice snag! Never seen one this misaligned.
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 Posted 02/22/2011  10:43 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Scooby Due to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
That's a great explanation biggfredd.
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 Posted 02/22/2011  10:56 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Indian1 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
U'mmm

1982-P lge. date copper MAD obv. Nice one.
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 Posted 02/23/2011  10:06 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add quiquelo to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Wow! I have to start paying more attention to MAD cents!
That's what so great about this forum, you never stop learning.
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 Posted 02/25/2011  09:09 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add mikediamond to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Minor misaligned die errors like this coin are extremely common and have virtually no market value. It might be worth 25c. Value increases once the design is cut off. The greater the misalignment, the greater the value. The biggest misalignment I've seen on a US coin is 50%. Anything over 10% is noteworthy.
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 Posted 02/25/2011  09:40 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add coppercoins to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Okay, well, I've been digging through Lincoln cents since 1980 and to date have found fewer than a half dozen of these anywhere at any time. I cannot - still cannot - see how these are considered "common".

I'd buy this one for $5 without thinking twice.
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 Posted 02/25/2011  09:45 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add bobby131313 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I wonder how many of these are listed on ebay as "off-center" and don't get the correct attention. My guess would be a lot.
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 Posted 02/25/2011  09:48 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add bobby131313 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Took me 30 seconds to find this one, a very good candidate I would say.
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 Posted 02/25/2011  10:05 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Nickelman to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
So from what I have read here is this then categorized wrong since the error is on both sides of the coin?

http://cgi.ebay.com/Error-Quarter-G...em255e831a0e

and this one as well:

http://cgi.ebay.com/Error-CT-Quarte...em255c4c66d2
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02/25/2011 10:07 am
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 Posted 02/25/2011  11:36 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add coppercoins to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
The coin Bobby found is likely a very minor misaligned die - they are very common for early 1970s cents.

The two coins Nickelman found are NOT misaligned dies - they are off-center strikes.
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 Posted 02/25/2011  11:44 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add mikediamond to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Actually, both ebay auction coins are uncentered broadstrikes.
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 Posted 02/25/2011  1:51 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Cud Wild to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
mikediamond: This coin is misaligned by 10 percent atleast. I find misaligned dies all the time around 2-5% off. I never keep them because like what you say they are only worth around 25 cents a piece.
Edited: I stand corrected its only about 8-9% misaligned. I will say this is the most misaligned coin I've ever found through thousands of dollars of pennies searched. Even though its only worth 25 cents I'm still keeping it. Its a keeper in my book.
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02/25/2011 3:23 pm
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I would definitely have kept that coin as well. I keep the more severe ones and toss the minor ones back into the wild, but would never have guessed there was any kind of premium associated with them.
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Wow, this is a little more misaligned than I thought. Its so much fun learning this stuff.
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