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I thought this might interest a few of you. I'm not sure if the amounts will matter in the long run, seems we have plenty of dollar coins if they want those.

http://www.bulawayo24.com/index-id-...imbabwe.html
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 Posted 02/23/2011  2:02 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add tnwalker10 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
This is interesting. Might as well provide them with coins, it's not like there's a shortage here. We have tons and tons of SBA's sitting on pallets in storage. I wonder if we are to strike any coins for them or just supply them with our old stuff?
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 Posted 02/23/2011  2:11 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add jbuck to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I am sure a lot of those dust-accumulating baby dollars will make their way over there.
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 Posted 02/23/2011  6:43 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Conder101 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply

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we have plenty of dollar coins if they want those.

Why not, we've been sending them to Ecuador for years.
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 Posted 02/23/2011  7:08 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add invisibleninja7 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I've always wanted one of their $100,000,000,000,000 bills, maybe some sort of exchange agreement can be reached...
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 Posted 02/23/2011  8:21 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add JMerrick to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I've got a few of the $100 trillion notes. They're pretty funny, actually.

With regards to the coinage, I remember reading ages ago that to avoid running out of denominations due to hoarding, it's necessary to 'budget' something like 2 lbs. of mixed coins for every man, woman and child in the U.S. Now, even if you reduce that somewhat, the population of Zimbabwe is still 12.5 million. That's a lot of coins.

Also, I don't think the baby dollars will head that direction. In my experience, in Central America, even in dollarized countries like El Salvador and Panama, you don't see dollar coins at all. In Panama, you see some circulation of U.S. coins, but it's infrequent. In El Salvador, I've never seen U.S. coins outside of tourist oriented businesses. I know in Guatemala, the banks won't touch U.S. coins, period.

edit: I should acknowledge though, that the baby dollars are popular in Ecuador.
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I don't see many people griping about brass bucks, but they don't like S B Anthonies. Since they don't have other coins to confuse with, we could send those.

They have to do something about runaway inflation, which so far has been to use rands as the currency of account.
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 Posted 02/23/2011  10:01 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Coin Chaser to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Very interesting Wonder what effect that may have on our surplus coins at the mint (Federal Reserve)?
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 Posted 02/23/2011  10:33 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Secret Argent Man to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
what I want to know is, if we send them a couple million dollars in coins, what will they send us?

-How much for this Susan B?
-A hundred trillion Zimbabwe dollars.
-Nah, at that price I'll keep it. Maybe buy a bag of chips.

In all seriousness, though, what could we (IE the US) get in return?

On the subject of Zimbabwe dollars, I have a hundred trillion dollar bill too...it's interesting to say the least. All those zeroes! People who don't know the situation there automatically assume it's fake or novelty money.
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 Posted 02/23/2011  11:24 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add JMerrick to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Zimbabwe actually uses a currency basket approach where sterling, dollars, euros and rand are in use side by side.

By dollarizing (or poundizing, euroizing, etc.), you are actually holding the government more accountable on the world banking radar. Zimbabwe, like a lot of other countries, got away with "Gee, we're sorry, we can't meet our financial obligations because all we have are these ZimDollars that our own people use as toilet tissue." By being 'dollarized', it makes it much easier for the IMF and foreign banks to insist upon repayment of Zimbabwe's obligations.

Actually dollarizing the coinage though, is a very significant step. It's very rarely done. It's a very good hint that there are no plans to resurrect the ZimDollar.
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I read through this thread and honestly don't get it. makes me feel kinda dumb. Just why - with our own monetary problems - would we want to give money to them?
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what I want to know is, if we send them a couple million dollars in coins, what will they send us?
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Just why - with our own monetary problems - would we want to give money to them?

It's not "free money" - they're "buying" it for face value, using US notes (or other foreign money) they already own in exchange for coins and exchanging old worn-out notes for new ones. The Zimbabwean government and banks are sharing the cost of shipping.
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Supplying a couple of hundred tons of clad coins is really a minuscule charitable gift to Zimbabwe. That's less than $2 million metal value in foreign aid.

200 tons of clad coins works out to about 3 to 4 billion coins. More than enough for the needs of the Zimbabwe population.

I don't think that this has much to do with 'dollarising' their national debt. The value of the proposed coins in circulating currency would be negligible to their national debt.
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 Posted 02/24/2011  08:30 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Maineman750 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I'm with coppercoins on this....we cannot afford to give away even $10 given our debt situation...period.
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Maybe they will give us something in exchange. Do they have gold, oil or diamonds?
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Do they have gold, oil or diamonds?

They have diamonds, and they also have platinum - which is where all the US currency they're currently using has come from. They're the fourth largest producer of platinum after South Africa, Russia and Canada.

They also have one of the most fertile and productive agricultural regions in Africa, but thanks to Mugabe's "land reforms", Zimbabwe is now a net importer of food.
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