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*** Moved by Staff to a more appropriate forum. ***I'm posting this in 2 places. I need a fast response I guess. There is and auction tomorrow and I don;t want to dive in for $2000 and end up regretting it. Anything you see on this 1893-S that would scare you away? Thanks a lot: 
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its 2 grand?
Retired USAF 1983-2003
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Bedrock of the Community
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I don't see anything that screams counterfeit and doesn't look cleaned. Where are you getting the 2000.00 price from? If its an auction chances are it will go higher than that (especially from the stories I have heard of auctions like this)
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well I'm just speaking in terms of what the range I would maybe pay for a rare unslabbed coin like this. Soemtimes auctions go high sometimes they go very low because people there are as or more unsure than I am :).
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as posted in the other thread its fake and for one I would never buy a coin of this value unless graded
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as posted in the other thread its fake and for one I would never buy a coin of this value unless graded If you think its fake point out what screams fake to you? I was going to mention I can't see the denticles on the Obverse well to see how uniformed they are but I do not see anything that screams counterfeit to me. I know I am not familiar with this date as well as I should be but is the Mm off or something, anyhow what makes you think its fake? Edit: I just looked at the other thread and I do not see anyone saying its fake. they just said they are some fakes out there. Since I do not know the characteristics of this date I would rather have a slabbed example but just because its raw doesn't mean its fake, just means you need to know about the coin well enough before you buy. There are allot of coins (even key dates) that are not in a slab that are real so if that is your reason for screaming its fake, its just not true |
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im not really saying its fake 100% but I can bet I wouldnt trust a key date like this on ebay or any auction site not slabbed. Putting 2 grand and up on a coin is a lot of money to risk and I would feel a little better if I was the buyer if it was slabbed Edited by bryan1234
02/26/2011 04:53 am
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The auction have about 15 gold coins, 100 silver dollars, and bullion. Nothing being slabbed.
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If you think it's real, go for it. Just don't whine when it comes back as "not genuine", cause I'm doubting it will come back entombed by one of the big three. Did you check for the die markers? See below; http://anacs.com/contentPages/ShowA...kieSupport=1Think about it, the odds of finding an unslabbed '93-S are pretty slim. Edited by Merc Crazy
02/26/2011 10:10 am
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Just ask yourself, Why would any one sell this type of coin not graded if it is problem free & authentic?
I for one would want to maximixe any potential gain by slabbing it.
I also would never buy anything for that much cake from a picture.
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Are you thinking it'll grade to F12? Heck of a gamble! Maybe VG, but maybe a body bag too.
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you can get just as many slabbed fakes today as you can unslabbed fakes. today's coin collectors need to do a lot more research than we used to
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Well aware, Gary. Which is why I suggested checking the die markers... Haven't seen any counterfeits that accurately reproduce those.
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I for one would want to maximixe any potential gain by slabbing it. Thats because you have gained knowledge as a coin collector that has internet access. Allot of older coin collectors do not know how to use a computer nor do they wish to learn and even though they may have seen a slabbed coin before they don't see any reason for doing it because they like their coins raw better anyway and they feel they know how to grade good enough without having to pay someone to grade it for them. Then you have a estate sale where their family not only do not use the internet, they are not coin collectors either so they dont even know about slabs....This is how you get a whole collection unslabbed. if you look back in history most of the sets that everyone now knows were purchased from their collection raw and then they sent them in for grading after the new owner had purchased them |
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looking at the die marker page I think ya need to see the coin in hand before you could make an honest judgement on the coin
from what I read that date looks a lil off and the mint mark leave me some doubt and there is no way to see the "R" in liberty clearly
it may be real but ......
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I did not buy the coin. My question now is from the website I was given: http://www.vamworld.com/1893-S+VAMs It appears that the "Liberty" on the head band is raised (the second pictur eon the page). Is that correct. I'm at home looking at a 1921 and it looks to be indented (i couldn;t think of the correct word). Was this common or is there something I am missing? |
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