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Hello, I am having trouble determining which VAM this Morgan dollar is. If you need to see any other pictures, just ask.      Sorry The close ups are not of the best quality. Its the best I could do while holding the camera. Thanks |
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I can't tell from your pics, they are to blurry. Take new pics & post again. You can also try VAM World. |
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Quote:You can also try VAM World Why?...... the guy who wrote the book on these things is a member here..... Just be patient. |
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First things first. The key to attributing 1902-O is date placement. First determine if your date is normal placement, near placement or very near date placement. This will appreciably narrow the number of vams to look at.
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03/01/2011 6:48 pm
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The key to attributing 1901-O is date placement. Does that hold true for this 1902-O as well? Quote:
This will appreciably narrow the number of vams to look at. Getting the date right might narrow things down even further...  edited to add: Too late now to edit Terry..... you have publicly humiliated yourself.... Edited by zeewool
03/01/2011 6:50 pm
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First things first. The key to attributing 1902-O is date placement.
It wood help if I wore my glasses, thereby not waisting two much thyme. Maybe help also if I turned the light on. Typing in the semi-darkness has it's advantages though. I can't see my mistakes.
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Perhaps this would be a good time for you to help teach someone new to vams how to attribute a 1902-O?
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Perhaps this would be a good time for you to help teach someone new to vams how to attribute a 1902-O? You talkin' ta me?...... Are YOU talkin' ta me?..... Well you must be talkin' ta me, because I don't see anybody else here. If you are talking to me Terry, I would love to, except for one small drawback..... (I don't know how to attribute). |
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I can try to help, but better photos would be a big help. Let's start with the basics.
1. Near or normal date?
2. Doubled Liberty profile or no?
3. C4 or C4/C3 reverse?
4. Mint mark placement?
5. Any sort of distingusing die markers on either side of the coin?
The answers to these are important and the accuracy of them will help from going down dead ends.
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I can try to help, but better photos would be a big help. Let's start with the basics.
I will try to get some better pictures up later tonight. |
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I can try to help without photos, it just makes it easier with better photos. If you can just answer my questions above, we can start down the yellow brick road on this one.
I think I see a Near Date.
Can't tell about the doubled profile.
I think it is a C4 reverse.
I think the m/m looks high (slightly high) and tilted left (slightly tilted left).
I can't see any die markers.
Given that info, you have the choice of a VAM-26 or VAM-49. But if I am wrong about any one of those attribution points, then the field changes.
1902-O's are tuff to attribute, even in the best of circumstances because of all the plain-jane VAMs with nothing exciting going on.
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I can't see any die markers. What is a die marker? Is that like a die crack? (Probably a noob question, lol. I am new to VAMS) If its a die crack, then there are two on the reverse of the coin. (I added lines to the images below to give a better idea of where the die cracks are, and what they look like.)   |
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Die cracks are progressive, meaning they can be absent, in all kinds of progressive or intermediate stages, to almost terminal die stages. They are not very reliable for VAM attribution as such. Now, I will talk out of both sides of my mouth. In certain curcumstances, they can be drop-dead die markers. But that is not the case with your coin. The "basics" as I outlined above is what is needed to get started. |
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1. Near or normal date? Near
2. Doubled Liberty profile or no? Going to go grab my loupe.
3. C4 or C4/C3 reverse? You said C4, But I am not sure.
4. Mint mark placement? Not Sure
5. Any sort of distingusing die markers on either side of the coin? None, other than the two die cracks.
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2. Doubled Liberty profile or no? Not to the untrained eye.
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Posted 03/01/2011 5:27 pm
