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Looking For The Right 2x2 Flips.

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I'm really paranoid about any flips I may use corroding my coins over time.

Is any flip that uses Mylar safe?
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Mylar is an archival-quality material, I only purchase mylar when I buy flips.
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03/02/2011 11:19 am
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Mylar in my opinion is the only way to go, unless you move on to AIRTITEs or COINTAINs...
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every coin dealer and shop I have been to all have mylar flips. I think it would be harder to find some that were not made of mylar
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Agreed, mylar seems to be the material of choice these days.
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good I buy my flips off ebay and I'm not sure what they are made of. I will have to check and potentially re-holder my coins :S
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It is odd that so many think all 2x2's are the same. I've seen many hanging in coin stores in small packages of 10 or 25 each. I asked at one place to see them and on the package it stated made in China. At a coin show I go to where one dealer has many tables of coin items, no coins though, he caarries massive amounts of 2x2's all loose, no packaging so you don't know where they come from or what they are made of either. And even as he pointed out, there are many different ones which is noticable by the thickness of them when folded. I know that Whitman makes those red boxes for them but not sure if they make 2x2 flips too or do they order them from China too? I've never seen a notation on a cardboard flip as to where made either. Recently saw a post about the sizes of the plastic ones and that made me wonder about those too. So I grabbed a handfull and found I had two completely different types of those. And they are designed differently and slightly different sizes.
It appears your question needs some research. I don't think all 2x2's are made the same, with the same material. Not sure why no markings on any for where made either.
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In Canada all the coin dealers in my area all get there 2X2's from the same supplier, Unitrade. I have found the quality good and I have never had any problems with damages to the coins. Six years ago the dealers were selling them $5 for a hundred. Now the price has gone down to $2.50 for a hundred. More expensive one can be bought from Lighthouse that do not require staples. I strongly feel that 2x2 are the best way to keep your coins in your collection.
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Thanks for the advice everybody.
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In Canada all the coin dealers in my area all get there 2X2's from the same supplier, Unitrade.

Note that you mentioned SUPPLIER, not manufaturer. That is like saying Walmart, Sears, etc. for a supplier. None of those really make the STUFF they sell. And many now purchase most products from places like China where quality controls are not the greatest.
I kind of wish all flips, coin holders, Albums, etc. conatained the words of where they were made and what they are made of.
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Cowens makes a thick cardboard 2x2 with mylar windows. The cardboard tends to yellow with age. They come in hundreds, with green paper counters every 25. Virg Marshall sells good cardboard 2x2s with mylar, and I see he's finally on the Internet. If you plan to buy in multiples of 5000, get a dealer account. Best deal is to buy them boxed rather than bulk.

A major problem I've noticed with some 2x2s is the cardboard is slick and gel pens and sometimes even ink pens will smear. Also avoid plastic windows, which thankfully, almost no one uses anymore.

2x2 flips, which is the best term for the two-pocket clear holders where you can put a card in one pocket for info come in mylar, stiff plastic and soft plastic. Avoid the soft plastic, whose plasticizers can break down and harm coins. Stiff plastic are best, I think one brand is saf-T. I don't like mylar, which is archival quality and just about everything-proof, but it is a hard polymer that can scratch coins if you're not careful. It's almost impossible to heat seal, unlike regular plastics.
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Cowens makes a thick cardboard 2x2 with mylar windows. The cardboard tends to yellow with age. They come in hundreds, with green paper counters every 25. Virg Marshall sells good cardboard 2x2s with mylar, and I see he's finally on the Internet. If you plan to buy in multiples of 5000, get a dealer account. Best deal is to buy them boxed rather than bulk.

Glad you posted that. At many of the coin shows in my area, many dealers that sell 2x2's loose also have those green paper counters every 25. So I now can assume those are all Cowens. And yes I've noticed the cardboard is thicker than others.
Usually about $2.50/100 but only if buying 100. They usually put them in those Red Whitman made boxes and then charge more if you want them boxed.
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