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 Posted 03/06/2011  07:51 am Show Profile   Bookmark this topic Add Ceylon62 to your friends list Get a Link to this Message Number of Subscribers
While researching something else I found out that "inside" turned digits meaning the first digit turned is more difficult / rare to find than any other digit. 2 of the notes I saw fetched about 150 a piece at auction (un graded / raw chcu). Can someone confirm this?

Thanks



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 Posted 03/06/2011  09:29 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add iamkayelem to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I'll confirm that I'd never pay that much for that but gladly sell one for that!
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It makes sense to me that the first digit would be the more valuable and rare digit since it doesn't change near as often as the rest. The one I found is the very last digit and would make sense to be the most common.

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 Posted 03/08/2011  04:08 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Ceylon62 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Your explanation summarizes it very well.

This is somewhat like wet ink transfers where the back to front commands a higher premium than the front to back.

It would be interesting to see what someone like ikandiggit has to say as they specialize in collecting these type of errors.
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From what I understand, it should be a scarcer error but to me, it really doesn't matter where the stuck digit occurs. I personally wouldn't pay a premium for one like this over a note that has a stuck digit at the opposite end. There may be collectors who would.
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 Posted 03/09/2011  06:47 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Ceylon62 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Thanks. I do look at errors which are somewhat rare for the type of error. For example - mis cut notes (Post 03A). Although it is nothing major they are not as common as one would think. On the other hand "minor" gutter folds from pre 90's are rather common, plentiful and command high premium's as they are more sought after.

Does your collection have turned digits from each position of the SN? I am collecting minor mis alignments on 1976 $2's from each district (District error set).

BTW, demons had a set of $50's with turned digit. Not sure if you saw them.
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I use two criteria for my slipped digit/ missing digit(s) collection. How dramatic the error is and the cost. I believe the majority of my notes have the error on the right side of the serial numbers. I haven't made a concerted effort to collect the errors from different positions but that may come in time.

While it would be nice to have $50's and $100 error notes, I stick to $1 - $20 notes. Just because the resale value is better with the lower denominations.

I'm not sure if I've posted all my errors on this forum. I'll do a search later and if not, I'll start a new thread.
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I too have stayed with errors in the in the lower denominations with the highest being a $5 error.

Please do post some of yours as I would like to see them. Thanks
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These are the pics of some of the notes that I have handy. The other notes are in my safety deposit box. But this will give a nice sampling of what I have. I've also included a couple of notes with "insufficient inking":

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This one includes the note before and after the error:

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A couple of Canadian $20's that I found in circulation:

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Those are nice. Have you found any series 2006 with the same issue?

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Quote:

Those are nice. Have you found any series 2006 with the same issue?


I don't have any in my collection. The only ones that I've come across the error was too minor.
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20572920 -- What am I missing?
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The notes before and after the error are refered to as the Bookend notes.
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Quote:
20572920 -- What am I missing?

I believe the three are just consecutive numbers from 20572918-20572920, no errors in them so really have no idea why they would be graded unless I am missing something also
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I bought these from an on-line dealer who included these with the error note. The bookend notes indicate what the error note number is since the error is on both numbers in this note.

Also a lot of dealers who get an older stack will have them all graded because they get a major discount when doing quantity. If they're lucky they'll wind up with a 68 or 69 grade note out of the bunch.
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I wish I would have said that... oh wait, I did 3 posts earlier
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