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New Member
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Ok, my Canadian cent collection is pretty complete. Making my way to having all 6 1891 varieties and so on... Already make good progress on having higher grades of coins and so on... You know the drill. Have any of you tried American pennies? Like I have lots, but boy... I kind of hate them. Different mints and so many god darn varieties for each year. Then you search ebay for deals but it is practically just SPAM of just so much garbage being sold. I can't do it guys... I guess the Nickels will have to do. Similar experiences? |
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Pillar of the Community
 Canada
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 I know how you feel.My 25cent collection is at the point where upgrades are both hard to find and expensive.I thought US cents might be a way to pass the time between 25cent finds without breaking the bank.I worked my way back till I hit '31S,now I'm either going to have to live with a hole or go on to something else. |
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Valued Member
Canada
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Take a look in the back of the 2011 Charlton for those 80 varieties(of the 400+ that there REALLY are for Victoria Cents) and it will be like collecting an entire new series for you .. problem solved.
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New Member
 Canada
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I'm not interested in collecting different varieties that were created due to lack of quality control in the past.
There are probably 1000's of different varieties for Victoria cents. Some of the varieties are borderline stupid in my opinion.
But hey, there is a collector for everything.
I do collect some other varieties other than common ones. Only because they are NOT due to quality control.
All old coins will have this problem.
I think this growing number of varieties is just people trying to search for a reason why their coin is worth money and as an excuse to buy all the Victoria cents they can afford.
Heck, I love Victoria cents and buy lots of them too. I love them so I collect and accumulate them. I don't need an excuse. :)
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New Member
Canada
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I agree with DBM also.
That's why I was looking into American pennies. As I go to work my collection into MS-60 and higher, I need something that doesn't break the bank.
But really, American coins will take up all my time and feel like I'm going nowhere. And some cost a fortune, and I believe they are strongly overvalued.
I started Newfoundland Cents for now.
I think I will have to give the Nickels a chance.
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Pillar of the Community
Canada
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I always recommend fishscales as a great thing to get into. They are generally quite affordable in less than GEM grades.
Welcome to the forums.
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Pillar of the Community
Canada
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I collect wheat pennies. I agree with what your saying, between the different mints and varieties I do have few holes to fill. But the challenge is part of the enjoyment.
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New Member
Canada
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North of 49,
It's true.
I think collecting any set would be fun!
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Valued Member
Canada
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Jacked .... What some people on ebay or these message boards, as well as dealers, consider a "variety" has gotten way way out of hand. When I say variety, I mean a MAJOR variety, not an error or a minor. A Major variety is struck with good machines in good working order on good planchets and with dies that have been undamaged since approved by the mintmaster or supervisor. Die cracks, Cuds, most hub doubling, laminations, plugs, die rotations, errors (such a broadstruck, clashes, clips, strike-throughs, etc) are not varieties .. they are errors. Digit spacing, portraits, alignment, fonts, lettering, etc are all varieties. There are 6 different Obverses for 1882 alone .. 1 & 1a with single or full-serif N's (like the 1876's), the Obv 2 and the Obv 1/1a's. They weren't due to any error, mistake, or looking for an excuse to charge more money from collectors .. they are varieties .. just like the 6 types of 1891's. To me, anything US is way overpriced .. I'll stick to Canadian, no matter where it leads me. |
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Valued Member
United States
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OK so I might be called one of those guys that collects stupid things. I do pay a lot of attention to die marriages and the like. I don't collect errors as described by R2bR2c. I don't think the vast majority of the varieties I collect are worth any more than the base coin. I live in the US but rarely collect US coins. Why? Because filling up a folder with PDS coins does not appeal to me. I walk and look at things that others don't. That's what I find interesting. Jacked_J I agree with you, to each his own. Now where's my loupe? |
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New Member
Canada
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Seems I'm not entirely alone.
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Pillar of the Community
Canada
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R2bR2c-Your definition of Major variety is much broader than mine.For the 1876-1901 large cents I would say there are no Major obverse varieties only minor ones.Only one portrait was engraved by Wyon,and only one true matrix sunk.The relationship of letters to denticles never changes throughout the series.All of the obverse differences are due to repunching and re-engraving by,more than likely,Wyon's assistants.I consider these to be minor varieties as they are merely the result of die production methods of the time.
Much as everyone should collect what they enjoy,they should also determine for themselves which varieties and/or errors are important to them and not feel bound by Charlton's or any one else's definition.
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03/06/2011 7:41 pm
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Valued Member
Canada
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DBM .. We all have our own opinions. Vicky's portrait changed appreciably over the 35 years from 1876 to 1901, as did the lettering in the legends. The first 1876 specimen was an Obv 1a, yet the 1876 for circulation was an Obv 1 .. not the result of any re-engraving or repunching. 1882 brought an entirely new Obverse for part of the year .. the Obv 2. 1890 brought another change with the Obv 3, but with Obv 2 lettering. 1891 brought another portrait (I call the mumps portrait .. again all changes not by repunching or re-engraving..... and also a different reverse with the leaves and wreath. 1892 brought another portrait, again not by repunching .. the Obv 4. Since many years used more than one portrait for the mintage year and they looked entirely dissimilar, I'd call them varieties for sure. Again, I donm't think that die cracks, Machine Doubling, planchet flaws, rotations, chips, Cuds, etc to be varieties at all .. at keast not major varieties. Everyone should collect what they like and define things the way that they like .. that's what makes a hobby something to enjoy. I'm not a hole-filler and get bored unless I see new things. It's the thrill of the hunt .. to find anything different ... that's collecting, whethert antiques, coins, or anything else old. |
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Pillar of the Community
Canada
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R2BR2C-Not a difference in opinion,more a difference in beliefs.Like religion I'm as unlikely to change your beliefs as you are to change mine.As food for thought search on the other forum for what JHax said last August about what he found at The Royal Mint for 5cent obverses,you'll see why I was ecstatic when I read it,and haven't forgotten who said it and when. PS-sorry to all for hijacking this thread I'll try to be more mindful from now on Edited by DBM
03/06/2011 11:13 pm
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New Member
Canada
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It's not a hijack of a thread.
Merely a discussion of coins. Your discussion may broaden what I may choose to add to my Canadian Cent collection.
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