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How Do These Cut Collars Happen? 1975 Lincoln

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I'm wondering how these cuts on the collars happen? This one is pretty obvious. The coin itself is not great shape, especially some damage on the back, but I see similar cuts in collar areas fairly often and wonder what happens during minting to cause this.

Note that this only happened on the obverse. The reverse collar is normal.

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 Posted 03/13/2011  06:41 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add John1 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I think that's a very minor MAD,misaligned die.It might be on the obverse die mostly because it's the hammer die,just guessing though.
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I have no idea what the term "cuts" is being used to describe.

If it's the secondary line along the rim, that's a simple case of a very minor misaligned die, just as John says...if it's anything else, you'll have to explain it better. Basically it's a completely normal coin.
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Coppercoins, thanks :) The line you just referred to as "secondary" is what I was referring to. It looks like a cut mark on the collar to me, hence the word "cut" that I used. I didn't know a proper term to use but what also pops into my mind is that it was probably similar kind of action like a "clip" in the sense of the die striking and leaving a mark where it shouldn't have. Not a clip.

So it's a MAD = misaligned die then. Thanks to both of you. Now I know what to call these when I see them next time.

I've seen this kind of marking on collars before but none as dramatic as this one before.

Misaligned Die = MAD. Saved for future reference!





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Also the collar is the third die that forms the edge of the coin. There is no collar on a coin. As Coppercoins said, if you are talking about the extra rim on the lower right side of the obverse than this is caused by the flow of extra metal that comes up between the obverse die and the collar that forms the edge of the cent because of the misalignment of the obverse die.
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Thanks for your explanation Pyrbob ;)
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