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US Coinage And The War Of 1812

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If a list of America's "forgotten" wars were compiled, the War of 1812 would certainly rank near the top. Thumb too quickly through any United States history book, and you're likely to skip right past the scant few pages typically devoted to this conflict.

The goal of this article is twofold: (1) Present a basic understanding of the causes, execution, and aftermath of the War of 1812, and (2) Study coinage types issued by the United States during those wartime years, how coinage was affected by the war, and to measure modern day collector interest in coins from that long ago era.

** (1) Events Leading Up to the War of 1812
** (2) Causes of the Conflict
** (3) United States coinage during the War of 1812
** (4) The Americans Fight the British Again
** (5) The United States Emerges a Stronger Nation
** (6) Coins from the War of 1812 and Today's Collectors

** (1) Events Leading Up to the War of 1812:
Napoleon of France began his quest for control of Europe in 1803. Within a span of four years, much of his ambition was fulfilled: only Great Britain and Russia remained in his sights.

The biggest challenge facing Napoleon was protecting his supply chain on the high seas, where Great Britain held a major advantage. Much of France's imports came from the United States, a fact which had not escaped the notice of the British Parliament. In 1807, British lawmakers adopted a series of measures called Orders in Council, which sought to prohibit American ships from entering any port under Napoleon's control. In retaliation, the French dictator decreed that any vessel doing business with Britain would be confiscated by his forces. American merchants protested, arguing that the principle of freedom of the seas gave them the right to trade with anyone their choosing, and responded by running naval blockades of both nations.

The practice of blockade running naturally put the U.S. at odds with Britain and France, but the relationship between the Americans and British in particular soured dramatically following the Chesapeake incident. In the summer of 1807, the commander of the British warship HMS Leopard demanded to board the American frigate USS Chesapeake to search for British navy deserters. When the demand was denied, the Leopard opened fire, killing three and wounding 18 aboard the Chesapeake. Four alleged deserters were then seized, or impressed, and taken away with the Leopard. When news of this outrage reached Washington, D.C., many angry Americans demanded a forceful response. This was not the first time the British had impressed American seamen into their navy, but it was certainly the most violent episode to date.

Seeking to avoid war, President Thomas Jefferson urged Congress to pass the Embargo Act of 1807, which prohibited American ships from trading with any foreign nation. In effect, the United States temporarily abandoned the principle of freedom of the seas in the hopes of preventing war. Unfortunately, American businesses suffered greatly, and eventually pressured Congress to repeal the Embargo Act on March 1, 1809, three days prior to Jefferson leaving office. The problem of easing international tensions while retaining American rights fell to his successor, James Madison.

The Madison administration's diplomatic attempts, which involved embargoes and incentives, actually worsened matters between Britain and the United States. The British, however, suffered a severe financial downturn during the winter of 1811-12, following a major grain crop failure. Parliament rescinded the Orders in Council on June 16,1812, with the expectation that resumed American trade would help lift Britain's economy. At long last, U.S. demands for respect on the high seas had been met. Surely, now, there would be no war between the two countries, or would there?

The British had given in to America's wishes, but because there were no
trans-Atlantic cables or telephones in those days, news of Parliament's actions did not quickly reach Washington, D.C. Thus, on June 18, 1812, two days after the British withdrew trade restrictions on America, Congress declared war on Great Britain.


** (2) Causes of the Conflict:
Historians mostly agree that the War of 1812 was fought primarily over freedom of the seas and the impressment of American seamen. But there were other factors driving America's decision to take on the British for a second time:

-- Desire for New Territories. Pioneer farmers living in what was then the northwestern part of the U.S. were looking for new farmlands, but were not eager to settle the treeless prairies to the west. Rather, the rich, timbered regions of southern Canada were more attractive. Further to the south, denizens of those states eyed Spanish Florida, not only for farming potential, but because the peninsula was a haven for runaway slaves and Indians who regularly attacked frontier outposts. A war with Britain might give the Americans a justification for seizing Florida, since Spain was a close friend of Britain. Voters in these hinterland areas reasoned that a successful military campaign against the Redcoats might result in the annexation of portions of Canada and Florida, and thus sent "War Hawk" representatives to Washington to promote their desires.

-- Native American Relations. As frontiersmen advanced the sphere of American influence westward, indigenous peoples fought back to preserve their ancestral lands. Encouraged by British agents operating out of Canada, a confederation of Indian tribes, led by a Shawnee chief named Tecumseh, began offering organized resistance. Alarmed westerners demanded retaliation against British Canada to forever dissolve this troublesome alliance.

-- National Pride. A rising spirit of pride in the new nation also led to the War of 1812. Americans deeply resented British impressment of sailors at sea and foreign insults hurled at the United States flag. Moreover, a substantial portion of the American population believed it was the foreordained destiny of the nation to expand its borders to all extremities of the continent, and were prepared to take up arms to further this cause.

Support for the war was far from unanimous, however. Many residents of the New England states, largely represented by the Federalist Party in Washington, refused to support a war against Great Britain, for fear of harming their lucrative maritime trade. Furthermore, New Englanders worried about their shrinking power in the federal government. New territory would eventually lead to new states. Whenever a new state entered the Union, their political clout was diminished. In many respects, the United States was ill-prepared for war, but the lack of unity was the most visible handicap facing the nation.


** (3) United States coinage Types during the War of 1812
Coinage was not produced in large quantities by the United States during the War of 1812. Of the ten coin denominations stipulated by the 1792 Mint Act, only three of them were struck with any consistency during the war: cents, half dollars, and half eagles. The other seven denominations were scarcely minted or not at all, because of the existence of foreign coin substitutes, bullion weight peculiarities, or other circumstances related to the war. What follows is a review of U.S. coinage types from 1812-1815, the years the War of 1812 was fought, and how their collectible values have progressed in modern times.

++ Half Cent. None issued. ++
Planchets for coining the Half Cent came to the U.S. from England, up until 1811, when worsening relations between the two nations halted shipments. No one really missed the Half Cent, as economists of the time questioned the existence of the lowly denomination, given their manufacturing difficulty and limited value in commercial transactions (yes, even 200 years ago, a Half Cent couldn't buy much). The Half Cent would not be minted again until 1825, ten years after the normalization of trade following the war.

++ Large Cent. Classic Head, 1812-1814. ++
England also provided planchets for the one cent coin, and like the Half Cent, deliveries ceased prior to and during the War of 1812. Cent production continued, but in smaller quantities. By 1814, the planchet supply was exhausted. In September 1815, about nine months after the close of hostilities, planchet shipments resumed, but this did not allow the Mint enough time to issue cents dated 1815. Thus, 1815 is the only year since the U.S. Mint began regular coinage in 1793 that the one cent denomination was not struck.

There are no exceptional one cent rarities from the War of 1812, so the 1813 was selected to represent the denomination in this analysis.

1813 Classic Head Large Cent
Values in Year
1950..Good:$4.00.. F:$10.00..XF:$15.00
1955..Good:$5.50.. F:$12.50..XF:$20.00
1960..Good:$10.00..F:$22.50...XF:$75.00
1965..Good:$20.00..F:$60.00...XF:$135
1970..Good:$25.00..F:$70.00...XF:$175
1975..Good:$27.50..F:$80.00...XF:$300
1980..Good:$35.00..F:$110....XF:$550
1985..Good:$45.00..F:$115....XF:$650
1990..Good:$45.00..F:$200....XF:$1000
1995..Good:$60.00..F:$275...XF:$1350
2000..Good:$60.00..F:$250...XF:$1350
2003..Good:$75.00..F:$300...XF:$1500
2006..Good:$85.00..F:$300...XF:$2500
Good Cond. -- Value increase since 1950: 2025%, Compounds annually @ 5.61%
Fine Cond. -- Value increase since 1950: 2025%, Compounds annually @ 6.26%
XF Cond. -- Value increase since 1950: 16567%, Compounds annually @ 9.57%
Good Cond. -- Value increase since 1980: 143%, Compounds annually @ 3.47%
Fine Cond. -- Value increase since 1980: 2025%, Compounds annually @ 3.93%
XF Cond. -- Value increase since 1980: 355%, Compounds annually @ 6.00%
Good Cond. -- Value increase since 1995: 42%, Compounds annually @ 3.22%
Fine Cond. -- Value increase since 1995: 2025%, Compounds annually @ 0.79%
XF Cond. -- Value increase since 1995: 85%, Compounds annually @ 5.76%
Good Cond. -- Value increase since 2000: 42%, Compounds annually @ 5.98%
Fine Cond. -- Value increase since 2000: 2025%, Compounds annually @ 3.09%
XF Cond. -- Value increase since 2000: 85%, Compounds annually @ 10.82%
Good Cond. -- Value increase since 2003: 13%, Compounds annually @ 4.26%
Fine Cond. -- Value increase since 2003: 2025%, Compounds annually @ 0.00%
XF Cond. -- Value increase since 2003: 67%, Compounds annually @ 18.56%

++ Half Disme. None issued. ++
The production of the Half Disme (the "dime" spelling did not come into use until 1837) was suspended after 1805. The Mint stopped coining Half Dismes because of the widespread use of the legal tender Mexican half real (pronounced "ree-all"), worth about six cents face value. Mint officials reasoned that since the public already had an acceptable alternative, further coining of Half Dismes was not a good use of their limited resources. Half Dismes were not minted again until 1829.

++ Disme. Capped Bust, 1814 Only. ++
There were no dismes minted after 1811 until the year 1814, when a whopping 421,500 came off the coining presses. The 1814 disme tally nearly exceeded disme production of the previous 18 years combined, since its inception in 1796. No dismes were struck again until 1820. As was the case with Half Dismes, dismes were not particularly in demand, as their role in commerce was being somewhat filled by Mexican coinage, so why the sudden surge in disme interest? Perhaps someday a researcher will uncover the motivation behind the existence of the 1814 disme.

The 1814 was the only disme issued during the War of 1812, but fortunately, many examples survive to this day. There are three varieties of the 1814 disme, all of which are fairly equal in value. The large date variety is examined here.

1814 Capped Bust Disme Large Date
Values in Year
1950..Good:$2.00 ..MS60:$17.50..MS65:$NA
1955..Good:$3.50 ..MS60:$25.00..MS65:$NA
1960..Good:$5.00 ..MS60:$42.50..MS65:$NA
1965..Good:$12.00...MS60:$115...MS65:$NA
1970..Good:$16.00..MS60:$175..MS65:$NA
1975..Good:$27.50..MS60:$700..MS65:$NA
1980..Good:$30.00..MS60:$1500..MS65:$NA
1985..Good:$25.00..MS60:$1250..MS65:$NA
1990..Good:$15.00..MS60:$1200..MS65:$NA
1995..Good:$20.00..MS60:$1200..MS65:$9000
2000..Good:$25.00..MS60:$1000..MS65:$10000
2003..Good:$27.50..MS60:$1000..MS65:$10000
2006..Good:$30.00..MS60:$1000..MS65:$12000
Good Cond. -- Value increase since 1950: 1400%, Compounds annually @ 4.95%
MS60 Cond. -- Value increase since 1950: 5614%, Compounds annually @ 7.49%
MS65 Cond. -- Value increase since 1950: NA%, Compounds annually @ NA%
Good Cond. -- Value increase since 1980: 0%, Compounds annually @ 0.00%
MS60 Cond. -- Value increase since 1980: -33%, Compounds annually @ -1.55%
MS65 Cond. -- Value increase since 1980: NA%, Compounds annually @ NA%
Good Cond. -- Value increase since 1995: 50%, Compounds annually @ 3.75%
MS60 Cond. -- Value increase since 1995: -17%, Compounds annually @ -1.64%
MS65 Cond. -- Value increase since 1995: 33%, Compounds annually @ 2.65%
Good Cond. -- Value increase since 2000: 20%, Compounds annually @ 3.09%
MS60 Cond. -- Value increase since 2000: 0%, Compounds annually @ 0.00%
MS65 Cond. -- Value increase since 2000: 20%, Compounds annually @ 3.09%
Good Cond. -- Value increase since 2003: 9%, Compounds annually @ 2.94%
MS60 Cond. -- Value increase since 2003: 0%, Compounds annually @ 0.00%
MS65 Cond. -- Value increase since 2003: 20%, Compounds annually @ 6.27%


++ Quarter. Capped Bust, 1815 Only. ++
No quarters were minted between 1807 and 1818, with the sole exception of the year 1815, when 89,235 were struck. Similar to the other smaller silver coins, the need for the quarter was largely obviated by the circulation of the Mexican double real, worth exactly the same face value (the phrase "two bits", meaning 25 cents, originated with the usage of the double real). Mint officials had no plans to produce any quarters in the summer of 1814, when a large shipment of Mexican silver dollars arrived from a New Orleans bank, accompanied by a letter requesting the silver be coined into quarter dollars and returned to the bank. After some hesitation, the Mint delivered more than 69,232 quarters in December 1815, followed by another 20,003 a month later. All bore the date of 1815.

For collectors hoping to add a quarter directly connected to the War of 1812 years, the 1815 issue is their only choice.

1815 Capped Bust quarter
Values in Year
1950..Good:$2.00 ..MS60:$35.00..MS65:$NA
1955..Good:$4.50 ..MS60:$60.00..MS65:$NA
1960..Good:$9.00 ..MS60:$150..MS65:$NA
1965..Good:$20.00..MS60:$350..MS65:$NA
1970..Good:$20.00..MS60:$550..MS65:$NA
1975..Good:$25.00..MS60:$2500..MS65:$NA
1980..Good:$45.00..MS60:$2750..MS65:$NA
1985..Good:$65.00..MS60:$3000..MS65:$NA
1990..Good:$35.00..MS60:$3000..MS65:$NA
1995..Good:$40.00..MS60:$2250..MS65:$NA
2000..Good:$60.00..MS60:$2000..MS65:$3750
2003..Good:$60.00..MS60:$2000..MS65:$3750
2006..Good:$75.00..MS60:$2500..MS65:$5000
Good Cond. -- Value increase since 1950: 3650%, Compounds annually @6.69%
MS60 Cond. -- Value increase since 1950: 7043%, Compounds annually @ 7.92%
MS65 Cond. -- Value increase since 1950: NA%, Compounds annually @ NA%
Good Cond. -- Value increase since 1980: 67%, Compounds annually @ 1.98%
MS60 Cond. -- Value increase since 1980: -9%, Compounds annually @ -0.37%
MS65 Cond. -- Value increase since 1980: NA%, Compounds annually @ NA%
Good Cond. -- Value increase since 1995: 88%, Compounds annually @ 5.88%
MS60 Cond. -- Value increase since 1995: 11%, Compounds annually @ 0.96%
MS65 Cond. -- Value increase since 1995: NA%, Compounds annually @ NA%
Good Cond. -- Value increase since 2000: 25%, Compounds annually @ 3.79%
MS60 Cond. -- Value increase since 2000: 25%, Compounds annually @ 3.79%
MS65 Cond. -- Value increase since 2000: 33%, Compounds annually @ 4.91%
Good Cond. -- Value increase since 2003: 25%, Compounds annually @ 7.72%
MS60 Cond. -- Value increase since 2003: 25%, Compounds annually @ 7.72%
MS65 Cond. -- Value increase since 2003: 33%, Compounds annually @ 10.06%



++ Half Dollar. Capped Bust, 1812-1815. ++
The half dollar was perhaps the most important coin issued by the Mint the first few decades of the 19th century, not just during the War of 1812. Indeed, it became the "coin of the realm", and was produced continuously throughout the war, usually numbering more than a million pieces annually. A primary reason why the Mint saw fit to produce so many half dollars is because there were no foreign coin substitutes of equal face value to serve the public. Also, half dollars were instrumental in bank transfers. However, only 47,150 halves were struck in 1815, the lowest mintage of the entire Capped Bust half dollar series. The financial burden of paying off the war debt sent the U.S. economy reeling, greatly reducing the demand for coinage.

War of 1812 half dollars exist along the full range of the rarity spectrum. Included in this analysis is a common date (1814), a semi-key (1814, 4 over 3), and a couple of key dates (1812, 2 over 1 large 8 and 1815, 5 over 2).

1812, 2 over 1 large 8 Capped Bust half dollar
Values in Year
1950..Good:$NA..XF:$NA..AU:$NA
1955..Good:$NA..XF:$NA..AU:$NA
1960..Good:$NA..XF:$NA..AU:$NA
1965..Good:$NA..XF:$NA..AU:$NA
1970..Good:$NA..XF:$NA..AU:$NA
1975..Good:$NA..XF:$NA..AU:$NA
1980..Good:$NA..XF:$NA..AU:$NA
1985..Good:$NA.. XF:$NA..AU:$NA
1990..Good:$1500...XF:$6250..AU:$NA
1995..Good:$1600..XF:$11000..AU:$NA
2000..Good:$1600..XF:$10000..AU:$NA
2003..Good:$1600..XF:$11000..AU:$17500
2006..Good:$2000..XF:$15000..AU:$25000
Good Cond. -- Value increase since 1950: NA%, Compounds annually @ NA%
XF Cond. -- Value increase since 1950: NA%, Compounds annually @ NA%
AU Cond. -- Value increase since 1950: NA%, Compounds annually @ NA%
Good Cond. -- Value increase since 1980: NA%, Compounds annually @ NA%
XF Cond. -- Value increase since 1980: NA%, Compounds annually @ NA%
AU Cond. -- Value increase since 1980: NA%, Compounds annually @ NA%
Good Cond. -- Value increase since 1995: 25%, Compounds annually @ 2.05%
XF Cond. -- Value increase since 1995: 36%, Compounds annually @ 2.86%
AU Cond. -- Value increase since 1995: NA%, Compounds annually @ NA%
Good Cond. -- Value increase since 2000: 25%, Compounds annually @ 3.79%
XF Cond. -- Value increase since 2000: 50%, Compounds annually @ 6.99%
AU Cond. -- Value increase since 2000: NA%, Compounds annually @ NA%
Good Cond. -- Value increase since 2003: 25%, Compounds annually @ 7.72%
XF Cond. -- Value increase since 2003: 36%, Compounds annually @ 10.89%
AU Cond. -- Value increase since 2003: 43%, Compounds annually @ 12.62%

1814 Capped Bust half dollar
Values in Year
1950..Good:$0.75..MS60:$6.50..MS63:$NA
1955..Good:$1.50..MS60:$12.50..MS63:$NA
1960..Good:$3.25..MS60:$27.50..MS63:$NA
1965..Good:$8.50..MS60:$65.00..MS63:$NA
1970..Good:$10.00..MS60:$125..MS63:$NA
1975..Good:$20.00..MS60:$425..MS63:$NA
1980..Good:$20.00..MS60:$525..MS63:$NA
1985..Good:$35.00..MS60:$1000..MS63:$NA
1990..Good:$30.00..MS60:$1250..MS63:$3250
1995..Good:$30.00..MS60:$900..MS63:$2750
2000..Good:$35.00..MS60:$1000..MS63:$3250
2003..Good:$45.00..MS60:$1100..MS63:$3250
2006..Good:$65.00..MS60:$2000..MS63:$4000
Good Cond. -- Value increase since 1950: 8567%, Compounds annually @ 8.29%
MS60 Cond. -- Value increase since 1950: 30669%, Compounds annually @ 10.77%
MS63 Cond. -- Value increase since 1950: NA%, Compounds annually @ NA%
Good Cond. -- Value increase since 1980: 225%, Compounds annually @ 4.64%
MS60 Cond. -- Value increase since 1980: 281%, Compounds annually @ 5.28%
MS63 Cond. -- Value increase since 1980: NA%, Compounds annually @ NA%
Good Cond. -- Value increase since 1995: 117%, Compounds annually @ 7.28%
MS60 Cond. -- Value increase since 1995: 122%, Compounds annually @ 7.53%
MS63 Cond. -- Value increase since 1995: 45%, Compounds annually @ 3.46%
Good Cond. -- Value increase since 2000: 86%, Compounds annually @ 10.87%
MS60 Cond. -- Value increase since 2000: 100%, Compounds annually @ 12.25%
MS63 Cond. -- Value increase since 2000: 23%, Compounds annually @ 3.52%
Good Cond. -- Value increase since 2003: 44%, Compounds annually @ 13.04%
MS60 Cond. -- Value increase since 2003: 82%, Compounds annually @ 22.05%
MS63 Cond. -- Value increase since 2003: 23%, Compounds annually @ 7.17%

1814, 4 over 3 Capped Bust half dollar
Values in Year
1950..Good:$2.00..MS60:$15.00..MS63:$NA
1955..Good:$3.00..MS60:$25.00..MS63:$NA
1960..Good:$8.00..MS60:$75.00..MS63:$NA
1965..Good:$14.00..MS60:$125..MS63:$NA
1970..Good:$15.00..MS60:$200..MS63:$NA
1975..Good:$22.50..MS60:$425..MS63:$NA
1980..Good:$22.50..MS60:$625..MS63:$NA
1985..Good:$42.50..MS60:$1100..MS63:$NA
1990..Good:$50.00..MS60:$1750..MS63:$3500
1995..Good:$47.50..MS60:$2000..MS63:$4750
2000..Good:$50.00..MS60:$2000..MS63:$5250
2003..Good:$50.00..MS60:$2000..MS63:$5250
2006..Good:$100..MS60:$2750..MS63:$6000
Good Cond. -- Value increase since 1950: 4900%, Compounds annually @ 7.24%
MS60 Cond. -- Value increase since 1950: 18233%, Compounds annually @ 9.75%
MS63 Cond. -- Value increase since 1950: NA%, Compounds annually @ NA%
Good Cond. -- Value increase since 1980: 344%, Compounds annually @ 5.90%
MS60 Cond. -- Value increase since 1980: 340%, Compounds annually @ 5.86%
MS63 Cond. -- Value increase since 1980: NA%, Compounds annually @ NA%
Good Cond. -- Value increase since 1995: 111%, Compounds annually @ 7.00%
MS60 Cond. -- Value increase since 1995: 38%, Compounds annually @ 2.94%
MS63 Cond. -- Value increase since 1995: 26%, Compounds annually @ 2.15%
Good Cond. -- Value increase since 2000: 100%, Compounds annually @ 12.25%
MS60 Cond. -- Value increase since 2000: 38%, Compounds annually @ 5.45%
MS63 Cond. -- Value increase since 2000: 14%, Compounds annually @ 2.253%
Good Cond. -- Value increase since 2003: 100%, Compounds annually @ 25.99%
MS60 Cond. -- Value increase since 2003: 38%, Compounds annually @ 11.20%
MS63 Cond. -- Value increase since 2003: 14%, Compounds annually @ 4.55%

1815, 5 over 2 Capped Bust half dollar
Values in Year
1950..Good:$9.00..MS60:$65.00..MS63:NA
1955..Good:$15.00..MS60:$100..MS63:NA
1960..Good:$45.00..MS60:$250..MS63:NA
1965..Good:$80.00..MS60:$600..MS63:NA
1970..Good:$95.00..MS60:$900..MS63:NA
1975..Good:$125..MS60:$2250..MS63:NA
1980..Good:$250..MS60:$3000..MS63:NA
1985..Good:$700..MS60:$4500..MS63:NA
1990..Good:$700..MS60:$15000..MS63:$37500
1995..Good:$600..MS60:$11000..MS63:$25000
2000..Good:$600..MS60:$10000..MS63:$25000
2003..Good:$750..MS60:$10000..MS63:$25000
2006..Good:$1250..MS60:$15000..MS63:$35000
Good Cond. -- Value increase since 1950: 13789%, Compounds annually @ 9.21%
MS60 Cond. -- Value increase since 1950: 22977%, Compounds annually @ 10.20%
MS63 Cond. -- Value increase since 1950: NA%, Compounds annually @ NA%
Good Cond. -- Value increase since 1980: 400%, Compounds annually @ 6.39%
MS60 Cond. -- Value increase since 1980: 400%, Compounds annually @ 6.39%
MS63 Cond. -- Value increase since 1980: NA%, Compounds annually @ NA%
Good Cond. -- Value increase since 1995: 108%, Compounds annually @ 6.90%
MS60 Cond. -- Value increase since 1995: 36%, Compounds annually @ 2.86%
MS63 Cond. -- Value increase since 1995: 40%, Compounds annually @ 3.11%
Good Cond. -- Value increase since 2000: 108%, Compounds annually @ 13.01%
MS60 Cond. -- Value increase since 2000: 50%, Compounds annually @ 6.99%
MS63 Cond. -- Value increase since 2000: 40%, Compounds annually @ 5.77%
Good Cond. -- Value increase since 2003: 67%, Compounds annually @ 18.56%
MS60 Cond. -- Value increase since 2003: 50%, Compounds annually @ 14.47%
MS63 Cond. -- Value increase since 2003: 40%, Compounds annually @ 11.87%


++ Silver Dollar. None issued. ++
Silver dollar coinage was discontinued in 1804, and did not resume until 1836. The silver dollar circulated in the United States alongside the Spanish pillar dollar (also called the Pieces of Eight) for a short while, until it was observed by entrepreneurs that the U.S. dollar could be exchanged at par with the pillar dollar in the West Indies. This was a profitable scenario, for the U.S. dollar weighed less and contained a lower percentage of silver compared to the pillar dollar. Traders deposited their pillar dollars at the Philadelphia Mint, where they were re-coined for them into a larger number of U.S. silver dollars. The new silver dollars were exported overseas, where the cycle repeated itself. Taking note of this abuse, Mint Director Elias Boudinot suspended coinage of the silver dollar in 1804, a move later affirmed by President Thomas Jefferson.

++ Quarter Eagle. None Issued. ++
The 1792 Mint Act set the silver/gold ratio in the United States at 15:1, much in line with the European markets. In 1803, France adjusted the silver-to-gold ratio to 15.5:1, making it profitable to export American gold coins to France for melting. Because so many gold coins left the country as soon as they exited the Mint, U.S. gold coinage was greatly curtailed throughout the earliest decades of the 19th century. Quarter eagle production ceased after the one year issuance of the Capped Draped Bust type in 1808. U.S. gold coin exportation intensified during the War of 1812, when the silver/gold ratio in Europe was elevated to more than 16:1. Quarter eagle production resumed on a small scale in 1821, by which time the uncertainty of war and economic turmoil had long subsided.

++ Half Eagle. Draped Bust, 1812. Capped Head, 1813-1815. ++
The half eagle was the only U.S. gold coin struck during the War of 1812. Some demand existed from banks seeking half eagles to hold in reserve and to make international payments. About 170,000 "fives" were coined during those turbulent years, a considerable sum indeed by comparison to its contemporary coinage. Of that total, only a tiny fraction, perhaps 1% or so, survives to this day because of heavy melting losses influenced by the same European bi-metallic ratios that spelled doom for so many U.S. gold coins.

Representing the half eagles in our War of 1812 coinage study are a relatively common date, the 1812 Draped Bust, and an exceedingly rare specimen, the 1815 Capped Head.

1812 Draped Bust Half Eagle
Values in Year
1950..Fine:$27.50..MS60:$50.00..MS63:$NA
1955..Fine:$47.50..MS60:$75.00..MS63:$NA
1960..Fine:$75.00..MS60:$150..MS63:$NA
1965..Fine:$350..MS60:$575..MS63:$NA
1970..Fine:$400..MS60:$650..MS63:$NA
1975..Fine:$625..MS60:$2250..MS63:$NA
1980..Fine:$750..MS60:$4500..MS63:$NA
1985..Fine:$1250..MS60:$9000..MS63:$NA
1990..Fine:$1000..MS60:$5500..MS63:$17500
1995..Fine:$1200..MS60:$5500..MS63:$12500
2000..Fine:$1300..MS60:$5250..MS63:$12500
2003..Fine:$2000..MS60:$7500..MS63:$17500
2006..Fine:$3000..MS60:$15000..MS63:$25000
Fine Cond. -- Value increase since 1950: 10809%, Compounds annually @ 8.74%
MS60 Cond. -- Value increase since 1950: 29900%, Compounds annually @ 10.72%
MS63 Cond. -- Value increase since 1950: NA%, Compounds annually @ NA%
Fine Cond. -- Value increase since 1980: 300%, Compounds annually @ 5.48%
MS60 Cond. -- Value increase since 1980: 233%, Compounds annually @ 4.74%
MS63 Cond. -- Value increase since 1980: NA%, Compounds annually @ NA%
Fine Cond. -- Value increase since 1995: 150%, Compounds annually @ 8.69%
MS60 Cond. -- Value increase since 1995: 173%, Compounds annually @ 9.55%
MS63 Cond. -- Value increase since 1995: 100%, Compounds annually @ 6.50%
Fine Cond. -- Value increase since 2000: 131%, Compounds annually @ 14.96%
MS60 Cond. -- Value increase since 2000: 186%, Compounds annually @ 19.12%
MS63 Cond. -- Value increase since 2000: 100%, Compounds annually @ 12.25%
Fine Cond. -- Value increase since 2003: 50%, Compounds annually @ 14.47%
MS60 Cond. -- Value increase since 2003: 100%, Compounds annually @ 25.99%
MS63 Cond. -- Value increase since 2003: 43%, Compounds annually @ 12.62%

1815 Capped Head Half Eagle
Values in Year
1950..Fine:$NA..XF:$NA..MS60:$NA
1955..Fine:$NA..XF:$NA..MS60:$NA
1960..Fine:$NA..XF:$2500..MS60:$NA
1965..Fine:$NA..XF:$NA..MS60:$5000
1970..Fine:$NA..XF:$NA..MS60:$6500
1975..Fine:$NA..XF:$NA..MS60:$NA
1980..Fine:$NA..XF:$45000..MS60:$150000
1985..Fine:$NA..XF:$45000..MS60:$150000
1990..Fine:$NA..XF:$45000..MS60:$175000
1995..Fine:$NA..XF:$45000..MS60:$150000
2000..Fine:$NA..XF:$45000..MS60:$160000
2003..Fine:$NA..XF:$75000..MS60:$160000
2006..Fine:$50000..XF:$100000..MS60:$160000
Fine Cond. -- Value increase since 1950: NA%, Compounds annually @ NA%
XF Cond. -- Value increase since 1950: NA%, Compounds annually @ NA%
MS60 Cond. -- Value increase since 1950: NA%, Compounds annually @ NA%
Fine Cond. -- Value increase since 1980: NA%, Compounds annually @ NA%
XF Cond. -- Value increase since 1980: 122%, Compounds annually @ 3.12%
MS60 Cond. -- Value increase since 1980: 7%, Compounds annually @ 0.25%
Fine Cond. -- Value increase since 1995: NA%, Compounds annually @ NA%
XF Cond. -- Value increase since 1995: 122%, Compounds annually @ 7.53%
MS60 Cond. -- Value increase since 1995: 7%, Compounds annually @ 0.59%
Fine Cond. -- Value increase since 2000: NA%, Compounds annually @ NA%
XF Cond. -- Value increase since 2000: 122%, Compounds annually @ 14.23%
MS60 Cond. -- Value increase since 2000: 0%, Compounds annually @ 0.00%
Fine Cond. -- Value increase since 2003: NA%, Compounds annually @ NA%
XF Cond. -- Value increase since 2003: 33%, Compounds annually @ 10.06%
MS60 Cond. -- Value increase since 2003: 0%, Compounds annually @ 0.00%


++ Eagle. None Issued. ++
The ten dollar gold eagle was the largest United States coin denomination mandated by the 1792 Mint Act. More than 130,000 eagles were struck from 1795 to 1804, but most of them eventually perished in the melting pot. None were produced again until 1838. It is a safe assumption that even had gold eagles existed in abundant quantities, few combatants in the War of 1812 would have carried any of the coins, for ten dollars represented a princely sum in early 19th century America and was not typical pocket change for a battlefield soldier or midshipman. When gold eagle production restarted in 1838, it was characterized by a lighter coin of less gold purity, a move designed to frustrate bullion profiteers.

As wartime costs mounted with no end in sight, much of what little coinage there was nearly disappeared from view as specie (i.e. silver and gold coins) became tightly held. Banks suspended specie payments in 1814, because the supply of bank notes being issued to finance the war increased faster than the volume of specie reserves. Confidence in banks and the economy were shaken badly, but the situation improved when Congress chartered the Second Bank of the United States in 1816. The Second Bank helped stabilize the nation's financial system, and by early 1817, banks resumed specie redemption of their paper notes.

Collectors of today look at coinage from the War of 1812 with a somewhat mixed view. Some of the coins show steady growth over time, counterbalanced by a few that are just as likely to retreat in value over any given period. The value trend analysis is summarized in the last section.


** (4) The Americans Fight the British Again
The United States was not ready to take on the British Empire in 1812. As mentioned already, the country was badly divided. Most northeastern states contemptuously decried what they called "Mr. Madison's War". What's worse, the military was in no position to confront anyone, let alone a major military power. The army and state militias numbered only about 7000 men at the outset of the war, most of them poorly equipped and trained. The navy's dozen ships seemed no match to the 800 warships of the British Royal Navy. In retrospect, the U.S. faced dim prospects of ever accomplishing all of its pre-war objectives, but nevertheless, quickly launched into full combat mode.

-- The Canadian Front: The first major fighting of the War of 1812 was the American attempt to invade British Canada in the summer of 1812. The incursion was not only repelled, but the United States actually ceded ground, loosing Detroit to a combined force of Redcoats and Native American warriors led by the Indian chief Tecumseh. The following year, the Americans reclaimed the lost territory when a freshly constructed small naval fleet, under the command of Captain Oliver H. Perry, surprised the British on Lake Erie. "We have met the enemy and they are ours", wrote Perry in a report to his superiors, remembered to this very day as one of the proudest moments in all of United States naval tradition. The loss forced the British to abandon Detroit, and the Americans pursued them into Canada. At the Thames River, future U.S. President William H. Harrison defeated the British and their Indian allies. In the battle, Tecumseh was killed, and with his death, his confederation of Native American tribes disintegrated. Throughout the remainder of the War of 1812, the U.S./Canadian border was largely fought to a stalemate.

-- The British Burn Washington: By the summer of 1814, British landing parties were ravaging towns up and down the Atlantic coastline. In August, a force of some 4000 Redcoat regulars marched on Washington D.C. After casting aside feeble resistance, the British set fire to the U.S. Capitol building, the White House, and other government facilities. In a serious blow to national pride, President Madison and other federal officials were compelled to flee to the safety of countryside. With little time to evacuate, the President's wife, Dolley, instructed her aides to secure the famous Gilbert Stuart portrait of George Washington, lest it fall into enemy hands. As the flames intensified and all seemed lost on the American side, a torrential rainstorm struck the city and dowsed the inferno, preserving most of the buildings from total ruin. Washington was saved by Mother Nature.

-- The Defense of Baltimore and the Star Spangled Banner: After sacking Washington, the British next targeted Baltimore. No conquest of the city was possible without first vanquishing Fort McHenry, which guarded the entrance to Baltimore's harbor. The troops manning the fortress were determined to hold off the invaders, and to show their spirit, unfurled a giant 30' x 42' American flag, visible for miles. On the morning of September 13, 1814, British warships unleashed a ferocious bombardment of Fort McHenry. The defenders held strong as the shelling continued all day and into night. It so happened that an American lawyer named Francis Scott Key, temporarily detained behind the British fleet, observed the battle from afar. As the evening wore on, the red glare of rockets lit the darkness, proving the U.S. flag was still flying. A few hours after midnight, the bombing stopped, followed by an anxious silence. At the first glimmer of dawn's early light, Key was thrilled to see the great star spangled banner gently blowing in the breeze. the British had given up their assault on Baltimore and were heading back to sea. Inspired by this dramatic outcome, Key quickly scribbled some poetry on the back of an envelope, words that would someday become the United States national anthem.

-- The Battle of New Orleans: The British high command decided the capture of the port city of New Orleans would help tilt the outcome of the war in its favor. With this in mind, a force of nearly 10,000 troops was dispatched from Jamaica to attack New Orleans. American general Andrew Jackson hastily assembled an odd assortment of 5400 men, composed of woodsmen, pirates, sailors, "free men of color", and a few regulars. Jackson set up a defensive position a few miles outside New Orleans, shielding his army behind a newly dug water trench and stacked cotton bales. On January 8, 1815, General Edward Pakenham led the British charge against the American stronghold. Waiting patiently, Jackson's men held their fire until the last possible second, mowing down the first line of Redcoats. Wave after wave met the same bloody fate. By the time the British retreated from the battlefield, Pakenham was dead, and about 2000 of his men were killed or wounded. American killed numbered no more than a few dozen. The Battle of New Orleans was the largest engagement of the War of 1812, and was won decisively by the United States. Andrew Jackson quickly became a national hero, riding his fame all the way to the White House in 1828.
Peace talks between the warring nations began in August 1814 at Ghent in Belgium. Both sides sought territorial concessions, but in the end, no land changed hands. Negotiations were fought to a draw, somewhat mimicking combat results. Language in the treaty primarily called for a cease of hostilities, and did not even mention impressment of American sailors or freedom of the high seas. The Treaty of Ghent was signed on December 24, 1814, but did not reach the United States in time to prevent the Battle of New Orleans. Ironically, the largest battle of the War of 1812 took place after hostilities had officially ended!

** (5) The United States Emerges a Stronger Nation
According to the US Department of Veteran Affairs, a total 286,730 Americans served in the War of 1812, of which 2260 were killed in action, and 4505 wounded. An unknown number, generally estimated to be relatively high, succumbed to disease or died of other causes. British dead are unknown, since Great Britain did not maintain casualty records from that conflict. Despite the losses, the United States emerged from the War of 1812 a stronger nation, in a number of important ways:

-- Stimulated Growth of U.S. Domestic Industry: The pre-war embargoes and British naval blockades forced American manufacturers to begin making goods of the type formally imported from Europe. Factories, most notably in the northeast, began to thrive, and interstate commerce became a large business.

-- Disputes Settled Peaceably: The Treaty of Ghent did not directly resolve any disputes between the United States and Britain, but did provide the framework for negotiated settlements later. Within a few short years, important agreements were reached on maritime rights, international trade, and Canadian border policies, all stemming from the Ghent armistice. These agreements set the foundation for a lasting friendship between the two nations, which has continued to the present day.

-- Unified the Country: Banding together to hold off a major world military power, the American people emerged from the War of 1812 with a much stronger sense of unity. Andrew Jackson's clear victory at New Orleans punctuated the United States' strength and ability to defend its right to nationhood. The war's outcome also sealed the doom of the Federalist Party. Their anti-war diatribe was viewed by many as treasonous, causing membership in the party to evaporate and left the Democratic-Republicans (the forerunner of today's Democrats) as the only influential political party in America. So unified was the country, the period 1817-1825 came to be called the "Era of Good Feelings". President James Monroe won reelection in 1820 running virtually unopposed.

The time following the War of 1812 was like no other in the history of the United States. Finally done with European entanglements, Americans vigorously accepted the challenges of opening new frontiers to the west. Patriotism and excitement abounded, leaving political strife mostly behind. Technological innovations and factories brought jobs to many in the northeast, and agriculture, particularly cotton, gave rise to southern prosperity. For a short while, the American people were unified in a sense of national purpose, but as different sections of the country developed differently and took on competing social visions, the bonds holding the country together weakened with the passage of time. Disagreements led to rancorous debate, which tragically, spawned a civil war of devastating proportions in the 1860's.

** (6) Coins from the War of 1812 and Today's Collectors
The coins included in the value trend analysis presented in Section 3 are a good representation of coinage produced during the War of 1812 era. All of them have advanced some in recent years, a few spectacularly so, as the coin market in general has been hot. Over the long haul, no one should expect to see this torrid pace continue. When long range performance is combined with what has happened in the last few years, we get a better understanding of true esteem held by today's collectors for these coins. Here is how we rank the coins in our War of 1812 survey, with the coins most likely to enjoy future appreciation listed at top:

1812 half eagle
1814 half dollar
1815 half dollar
1814 half dollar 4 over 3
1813 cent
1812 half dollar 2 over 1
1815 quarter
*1815 half eagle
1814 disme

*Please note the 1815 half eagle is a special exception; because it is a classic numismatic rarity, developing meaningful value trends is tough because the coin is traded so infrequently. The next time an 1815 half eagle hits the market, the trend computations may change significantly.

Coin collectors hoping to obtain artifacts from the War of 1812 that also have some upside potential are advised to concentrate their purchases to the coins at the top of the list. As always, a good rule of thumb is to obtain the best properly graded condition affordable.

Do not be disappointed or surprised if your new purchase stagnates or actually recedes in value in the near future. As with most markets, coin pricing moves in cycles, with strong collector pressure pushing certain coins to increasingly greater heights over long periods of time.

Whether your desire is to hold your War of 1812 coins as if they were commodities and hold until profit objectives are met, or if you intend to pass the coins on to your heirs, always remember the connection your coins have to a unique time in American history. The War of 1812 was a very perilous event for the United States; had it not been for a propitious rainstorm hitting Washington DC on August 24, 1814, or for a handful of stubborn patriots defending Fort McHenry a few days later, who knows, America may well have been reclaimed as a British colony. Had history taken another path, one just as easily traveled, the War of 1812 coins might have been the final coins ever minted by a short-lived, long ago forgotten nation called the United States of America.
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WOW! that took about half an hour just to read! Very interesting though! I think I might just print this off to read tonight in bed and soak in more info! Do I have your permission? KEEP IT UP!
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Hello Pattiewhack,

Sorry for not getting back with you sooner. I don't think anyone will have any problems if you print out the article for later reference.

This is one of those projects that I that once I got started, I just didn't know when to quit. Probably dull and boring to many, but at least I had fun doing it!
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Boring? Not in the least! I love reading about my country's history - never tire of it. Thank you very much.

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Hi Ralph:

Thanks for the compliment. Your encouragement really does mean a lot to me!
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Daniel, thanks for a very interesting article. I saw a TV documentary on the War of 1812 a few months ago. Your article has filled in a few missing pieces, plus they did not talk about coins of course. Also, I now know who the Tecumseh air conditioning compressors in cars are named after.

Thanks

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Hello Daniel, I must say your article is top notch- I too am a history buff- and your article is so informative- I thank you and appreciate the time and effort along with all the information- I certainly was not aware of the Rain-storm- I had read about Dolly Madison's effort and managed to acquire the commem of her. Great story. Dewey-- aka habiru
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Daniel that was a 5 star post very good Info! I will be looking for more of your posts!!!!!
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Thank you all for your feedback.

I enjoy writing about coins and US history, and I do plan to produce more articles as time permits.
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Very good article and info.

Didnt know that american melt a mexican silver coin to make a american coin.

Any info on how much is the wage of soldier then?,and are they paid weekly or monthly?

Any info on what are the soldier carrying at war their personal effect maybe a charm or images of their love one or they do have some spare coin for other things they need.

On 1814 you didnt mentioned where the metal came from in making disme,But on quarter dollar you mentioned mexican silver dollar both same year 1814.

When did the americans capture florida in what year?

Where is the border of mexico and america when america capture florida and what are the coin used in commerce and trade in captured florida?

Is the coin used in trade in those time also mark the boundaries of countries?for the coin is a legal tender and back up by the goverment.
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Daniel, you did a great job! Interesting information and the detail is just awesome. I learned alot. Thanks
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quote:
Originally posted by Daniel J. Goevert

Hello Pattiewhack,

Sorry for not getting back with you sooner. I don't think anyone will have any problems if you print out the article for later reference.

This is one of those projects that I that once I got started, I just didn't know when to quit. Probably dull and boring to many, but at least I had fun doing it!



For a history FANATIC like me, very interesting. History History History. Nothing like a good book on the English civil war that would put an "ordinary" person to sleep in a metter of seconds!

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Thank you all for your inspirational comments.

In case anyone is interested, the same article is posted here in HTML format:

http://www.us-coin-values-advisor.c...of-1812.html

It's much more colorful and easier to read than the text version above.
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Well soldier carry coins and its on the article.

Just curious on what are the wages of the soldier and if they are paid weekly or monthly.

maybe the disme is needed for change for the money that the soldier are carrying.

or the minting of half dollar and disme the silver used came from mexican silver dollar got from newly occupied territory like florida if not came from a mine in other US state.

For me the minting of disme have many reasons one is killing the mexican legal tender to the smallest denomination.if the silver came from mexican dollar more like a multiple result in one strike, since the mexican coins have only few left in circulation this cut their influence and power in newly occupied territory.

Therfore establishing the boundaries of US, for I surf the net about the history of florida no land was given or arranged on the treaty and also expanding the US territory,since after the treaty was adapted or take effect the US go further until it occupied the whole florida east and west.

Mobilization of hundreds of troops needed to be wages or salary also the small change.maybe disme is needed

Disme is not like a Trade dollar,One might be hauling several tons of silver or disme to the border will be noticed immedately and the effort is risky to haul to be melted going to europe to bullion hunter or the mesican for funds against the war.and also maybe to small or near worthless to pay for the war debt of US but it is silver more like a bullion value reflected on the dollar of US.

Didnt see the whole treaty dont know if the europe pay an amount to access US seas or port for trade.

Im just asking and trying to get the most out of this article.
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Josie:

Spain turned over Florida to the U.S. in 1819, as a result of the Adams-Onis Treaty. In exchange, the U.S. agreed to pay claims totaling $5 million that U.S. citizens held against Spain for damages to American shipping during the Napoleonic Wars. Also, the U.S. agreed to abandon its claim to Texas as part of the Louisiana Purchase, something that became a critical issue later on. Spain was convinced that ultimately, it would not be able to hold onto Florida, so they negotiated the Adams-Onis Treaty and at least got something for the land.

The reason Mexican coinage circulated freely in the U.S. is because Mexico was the nearest country to the U.S. and had a relatively large supply of coins, which were needed here in daily commerce. Had Greece, for example, been the nearest nation to the U.S. with an ample supply of coinage, then the Greek drachma probably would have been an integral part of American daily life in those years.

Thanks for writing!
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Thanks daniel,

About the nearest country on boarder did the US silver dollar also circulated near in mexico boarder or the mexican dollar is more abundant in US boarder than US dollar?

Im just thinking that the US allow the mexican silver dollar to be used and siezed on the right time when the US boarder are already draw.

That US will have a silver supply and a boundary at the same time.or in the process, for they have plans for expanding their territory as on the article you wrote.

About the british the treaty of ghent is their a dole out or money involve that the british have to pay the US for burning the washington or damaging part of US or they the british have to pay the US to access the US port or seashore.?

One that I observe in every treaty their is a dole out or someone have to pay something,on the treaty of ghent which I didnt saw the document, didnt know if the british paid the US and in what form in silver or notes or other services.

If the british didnt pay the US this is one treaty that no dole out or money involve.

What is the name of the ship that carry the document of the treaty of ghent and how many ship did arrived in the US to handover the treaty.?
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