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Fake 1838 Half Dollar, Probably A Dumb Counterfeiter

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 Posted 03/22/2011  9:42 pm Show Profile   Bookmark this topic Add Numismat to your friends list Get a Link to this Message Number of Subscribers
Found this "beauty" among some foreign coins. At first glance I took it for a real coin and would have thrown it in with scrap silver coins, but then I noticed the "50c" instead of "half dol.". I guess the counterfeiter did not do their homework. Otherwise, the weight of only 11.1 grams didn't even seem that unusual considering the state that the coin is in.

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 Posted 03/22/2011  9:58 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add zeewool to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
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I could not find a 1838 half dollar to compare, but other than the date it looks like 1835-1836 halves I did see. Those used "50 C." instead of half dollar. This coin looks like it was possibly used on a necklace and was cleaned with a wire brush?

Edit: saw two varieties of 1837 half dollars online, one with "half dollar", one with "50 cents". I don't know what was used on the 1838 coins.
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03/22/2011 10:06 pm
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Thanks zeewool!

Fuzzy - As far as I'm aware it wasn't used on the 1838's.
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All 1838 CBHs were "Half Dol." reverse.
(Note the Obverse star pattern is WAY off too!)



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Beautiful coin. I would be proud to have it in my collection. It is a "Davignon Obv 3/Rev E". It is also the most common of all counterfeit bust halves.
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 Posted 03/22/2011  11:11 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Numismat to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Hi Moe - thanks for posting a pic of the real thing. I see what you mean about the stars. the counterfeit has them almost connected to the rim denticles.

jfransch - I figured it was a modern Asian fake, thanks for informing me that it's a known older counterfeit! If you want it, it's yours gratis. Just let me know.
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03/22/2011 11:12 pm
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 Posted 03/23/2011  07:54 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add just carl to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply

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I guess the counterfeiter did not do their homework.

And then again might not have cared since he was planning on selling it for way more than it cost to make. If he did, then it didn't matter how many errors he made.
I always remember that story about the guy that counterfeited one dollar bills for over 20 years and they had Washington wrong.
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And then again might not have cared since he was planning on selling it for way more than it cost to make

Yep, thirty or forty cents.
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 Posted 03/23/2011  1:28 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Numismat to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
"Yep, thirty or forty cents."

Wait, how does that work? =)
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"Yep, thirty or forty cents."

Wait, how does that work? =)

Contemporary counterfeit intended to circulate at face value. Probably cost less than ten cents to make and then was spent for 50 cents. Fifty cents was a significant sum of money back at the time they were made. Call it the equivilent of $40 or so in todays money profit for each coin passed.
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 Posted 03/24/2011  4:15 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Numismat to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Wow, thanks for the historical insight Conder! =)
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