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 Posted 03/23/2011  4:08 pm Show Profile   Bookmark this topic Add Craig Holsey to your friends list Get a Link to this Message Number of Subscribers
they look fake but I'm not an expert before I ask for a refund need a second opinion and his return policy is no refunds unless not as described well a non us mint product might fall under that the weight is 26.6 grams



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 Posted 03/23/2011  4:22 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add muddler to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Are these two different coins? If they are I'm positive they are imitations. Who would have two 168 year old coins with the same detail?
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 Posted 03/23/2011  4:40 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Merc Crazy to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Look fake to me... no particular reason off the top of my head, they just don't look... "right" and also I think this is a case of too good to be true.
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 Posted 03/23/2011  4:44 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add chris12018 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I see they are 2 coins. Weight is within tolerance. Can you you get a diameter measurement (38.1 mm). Did you try a ring test? Spin another dollar coin that you know is real on it's edge as it stops you will hear a specific tone that silver makes, then spin you ebay purchase. Do they sound the same? Other's with more experience will chime in.


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Who would have two 168 year old coins with the same detail?


I do.
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 Posted 03/23/2011  6:25 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add mkman123 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I would definitely avoid buying non slabbed numismatic coins UNLESS you know how to detect fakes from the real ones. Plenty of fakes on ebay, hope they turn out to be real
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 Posted 03/23/2011  6:42 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add upstate to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Scary set of coins to be buying off ebay unslabbed.
Curious to see how this plays out
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 Posted 03/23/2011  6:43 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add murty to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
They appear to be fake to me...I would listen to chris12018 and do the "ring test"
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 Posted 03/23/2011  6:45 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add coinguybrian to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Both fake, definitely.
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 Posted 03/23/2011  6:46 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add murty to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
They appear to be fake to me...I would listen to chris12018 and do the "ring test"
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 Posted 03/23/2011  7:18 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Maineman750 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
If you do return them as counterfeit. ebay holds the seller responsible regardless of the no return policy. Make sure to do all communications through ebay and follow instructions they give you.
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 Posted 03/23/2011  8:14 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add coinguybrian to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
And send w/delivery confirmation. I don't know if you're even supposed to return counterfeits, isn't it illegal to ship them?
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 Posted 03/23/2011  8:30 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Maineman750 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
No it is not illegal to ship them.It is even legal to collect them...you just can't pass them off as real.
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 Posted 03/23/2011  8:44 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add nybird to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Why return them, if they are fake take them to the police and file a report. If you return them they can just be resold. At this point it is mail fraud etc. on the sellers part. He should be glad to refund your money if you can prove that they are fake.
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 Posted 03/24/2011  12:52 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add mshev to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I'm gonna go with fake as well.

Maineman: I do believe it is illegal to collect them unless they are stamped with "copy" or are a certain % more or less than the size of the real coin.
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 Posted 03/24/2011  12:57 am  Show Profile   Check vermontensium's eBay Listings Check vermontensium's eCrater Listings Bookmark this reply Add vermontensium to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
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If the seller sold you these knowing they are in fact, counterfeit, he can be charged with very serious crimes. Now, proving that is the problem.
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 Posted 03/24/2011  01:02 am  Show Profile   Check BH1964's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add BH1964 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Both fake. A tip off might be $1,000 coins selling for $300. Return them and let ebay know this seller is passing counterfeits.
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