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Question 1887 S Silver Dollar

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 Posted 03/23/2011  8:05 pm Show Profile   Bookmark this topic Add spring423 to your friends list Get a Link to this Message Number of Subscribers
I have a question in regards to a 1887 s dollar. On the reverse of the coin the s is filled in. When I went to the VAM web page it does show some where the s is filled in. My question is in regards to some things on the coin that are not listed. If you look above the letters o n on the word one there are 2 lines there which should be 2 full leaves. Above the you in united you will see a partial leaf tip which should be a full leaf if you compare to other dollars.My question is would this be considered an error. Thanks for any input. Sorry about the scans may be time to invest in something better to take pictures.


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Your link displays currency....?
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Sometimes dies were so heavily polished over the course of their lives that some details got "washed away." If you understand that those leaves were under the surface on a die (the die being a "negative" of the coin), you can see that, if you polish the surface of the die down enough, eventually it'll start weakening the details.

Disconnected wreath leaves on Morgans are not terribly rare, for this reason. You should probably also see loss of detail inside the wings and tailfeathers of this coin. For some VAMs, these can be characteristic features but it's a slippery slope - dies have lifetimes, sometimes long ones, and even though we've identified and published a VAM it doesn't mean we've seen that VAM at a late stage where the dies have been polished that deeply. So, the die polishing on your coin might and might now help to attribute it.

In my opinion, such polishing should therefore not be a "characteristic" of a specific VAM. Possibly a "state" of a VAM, i.e., VAM-4a or 4b, but not the "smoking gun" indicator of anything. Every die you see polished this deeply should also have an earlier state with less polishing.
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