Coin Community Family of Web Sites Join Thousands of Coin, Bullion, & Money Collectors
Coin, Banknote and Medal Collectors's Online Mall 300,000 items to help build your collection! Specializing in Modern Numismatics Royal Canadian Mint products, Canadian, Polish, American, and world coins and banknotes. Shop for APMEX Bullion on eBay!Vancouvers #1 Coin and Paper Money Dealer Join Thousands of Coin, Bullion, & Money Collectors








Username:
Password:
Save Password
Forgot your Password?


This page may contain links that result in small commissions to keep this free site up and running.

Welcome Guest! Registering and/or logging in will remove the anchor (bottom) ads. It's Free!

What Happened To This One?

To participate in the forum you must log in or register.
Author Previous TopicReplies: 13 / Views: 1,866Next Topic  
Valued Member
Bluntedbobylon's Avatar
United States
247 Posts
 Posted 03/24/2011  2:21 pm Show Profile   Bookmark this topic Add Bluntedbobylon to your friends list Get a Link to this Message Number of Subscribers
Valued Member
Bluntedbobylon's Avatar
United States
247 Posts
 Posted 03/24/2011  3:04 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Bluntedbobylon to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Anyone?
Bedrock of the Community
coop's Avatar
United States
62064 Posts
 Posted 03/24/2011  3:53 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add coop to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
It could be a rolling of the stock material issue or a poor mix on the outer clad layers. Either way it is nothing with a premium. Sorry.
Valued Member
Bluntedbobylon's Avatar
United States
247 Posts
 Posted 03/24/2011  4:09 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Bluntedbobylon to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Thats cool, I wasn't expecting anything. I just wanted to hear some ideas as to what could have caused it. Thanks for replying!
Pillar of the Community
Maineman750's Avatar
United States
3592 Posts
 Posted 03/24/2011  4:26 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Maineman750 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Bluntedbobylon...just remember most people are at work so sometimes it takes till the evening to get answers
Pillar of the Community
United States
601 Posts
 Posted 03/24/2011  4:36 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add liveandievarieties to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I agree with coop- I've seen similar coins and I think that environmental conditions can bring out the contrast of impurities in the alloy. It's is fun looking if not collectible and a worthwhile coin to question!
Valued Member
Bluntedbobylon's Avatar
United States
247 Posts
 Posted 03/24/2011  5:30 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Bluntedbobylon to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
"Bluntedbobylon...just remember most people are at work so sometimes it takes till the evening to get answers"

Doh! Sorry, it's my day off so I didn't even think of people being at work.

Bedrock of the Community
biokemist6's Avatar
United States
12437 Posts
 Posted 03/24/2011  5:43 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add biokemist6 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I attribute this appearance to the set up of the metal stock. The clad sheets of metal are rolled between two heavy metal drums to obtain the proper thickness before the blanks are punched. The rollers can have a rough surface and also be contaminated with grease/oil which then transfers to the blanks. When you see these thin parallel dark lines that match up on both sides of the coin, it can almost always be attributed to a rolling issue. This phenomenon is also frequently seen on pre-1982 Lincolns.
Pillar of the Community
United States
601 Posts
 Posted 03/24/2011  5:57 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add liveandievarieties to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Wow, that's interesting. I think it's going to make me rethink how I look at those type of planchets. Can this appearance manifest on a single side of the coin biokemist?
Valued Member
Bluntedbobylon's Avatar
United States
247 Posts
 Posted 03/24/2011  9:16 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Bluntedbobylon to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Thanks biokemist6! It's a keeper.
Pillar of the Community
Scooby Due's Avatar
United States
4000 Posts
 Posted 03/24/2011  10:03 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Scooby Due to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
So, basically this is a quarter "woody"?

Would that fall under some kind of alloy mix or planchet error?
Bedrock of the Community
biokemist6's Avatar
United States
12437 Posts
 Posted 03/25/2011  12:11 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add biokemist6 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I do not recall ever seeing a one-sided example. I think it would be possible but more likely that both rollers would be dirty and abraded. I cannot see how one of these clad planchets could be considered an alloy error if the lines are parallel to each other on both sides. An alloy error would affect the outer clad layers independently because an alloy error would occur before the clad layers were bonded, the odds of alloy graining matching perfectly on two independent sheets of metal would be very small indeed.

The Lincoln cents are commonly considered to be "woodies" in the classic sense of a poor alloy mix but the Memorials affected have a much different appearance from the alloy streaks of the early wheaties. Their perfectly thin parallel nature made me reconsider the alloy issue and the only explanation that fits is a roller issue. There should also be oxidation at work to create the contrast, more than likely increased by the residue left from the rollers.
Pillar of the Community
United States
2736 Posts
 Posted 03/26/2011  09:51 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add mikediamond to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
The source of these streaks is not really understood. Some say they're roller marks, others say they're marks from a rotating descaling brush. But this is all speculation.
Error coin writer and researcher.
Pillar of the Community
Tunnioc's Avatar
United States
3174 Posts
 Posted 03/26/2011  10:07 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Tunnioc to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Why are there so many unknown facts? Doesn't anybody know an employee from one of the mints?Are mint employees not allowed to speak to the public?Just curious!
  Previous TopicReplies: 13 / Views: 1,866Next Topic  

To participate in the forum you must log in or register.



    




Disclaimer: While a tremendous amount of effort goes into ensuring the accuracy of the information contained in this site, Coin Community assumes no liability for errors. Copyright 2005 - 2026 Coin Community Family- all rights reserved worldwide. Use of any images or content on this website without prior written permission of Coin Community or the original lender is strictly prohibited.
Contact Us  |  Advertise Here  |  Privacy Policy / Terms of Use

Coin Community Forum © 2005 - 2026 Coin Community Forums
It took 0.3 seconds to rattle this change. Forums