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Ceylon62 Here Is A Full Partial Collar

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OK I am fine breaking this case as NGC graded it as a ....Well look at the last photo. I am to understand that they net graded the coin. What they see as " a possible very light wipe" It is really just part of the DIE but... as NGC labeled 2 of my Strong 8 over 7 tf 1878's as (7 TF) I will not waste my time with them. Grading and attributing by...... By guess and By golly..

Sorry for the vent folks as the die is the die.... the coin is what it is!






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Here is the reason for the vent
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Keep in mind there are 3 types of Partial Collars

1)The first and rarest is this type A Full solid type!

2) The second is the Full tilted type!

3) the Last is partial tilted type (this type will not have a full lip around the edge.
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03/26/2011 11:37 pm
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That 1882 is super cool Russ.... SUPER COOL...
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WOW!!collar and like double denticles AMAZING...
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Yeah Gene..... The double denticles are a side effect of the lack of uncontained metal displacement.
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Russ, Thanks for the collar type varieties. I cropped your pic to show what I am seeing on mine. I see the same effect on mine (reverse 10 to 2 o'clock position) / (double denticles ). I just cannot get a good enough pic.

Fwiw, I had a chance to buy 89 0 a while back (about 8 months) and I passed it up thinking it was a counterfeit.
That 89 O had the "partial collar" in the area of "uribus".

Zee, thanks for the link on the other post I made.


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That coin has a very sweet effect as to the doulbling of the denticles, rare for me to see........Thanks for sharing.
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It would be interesting to know how many have the "hammer die" being the Obverse and Reveres dies.
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Although I do not recall the sources, I had read in various locations (over a year ago) that the obv die was always the hammer die except on the 1921 when the the rev die became the hammer die and remained that way through the Peace era.

I have paid attention to tell tale clues and find this to be incorrect..... Although I have yet to see one, and while I believe that there are probably a small amount of exceptions, evidence would support the notion that the obv die is the hammer die (even on Peace)..... I imagine that of your three partial collars, the reeding is complete always (and only) nearest the rev die.
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Quote:
The first and rarest is this type A Full solid type!

aka "railroad rim"

very nice error
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