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 Posted 03/29/2011  5:28 pm Show Profile   Bookmark this topic Add ms32462 to your friends list Get a Link to this Message Number of Subscribers
what is the price of copper? and the bars worth anything like kilo bars solid thanks
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 Posted 03/29/2011  5:47 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add docsfishn to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
to the forum!

It looks like copper is around $4.32/lb. I'm sure the bars are worth as least the melt value of copper, I'm not sure about any premiums over spot.
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 Posted 03/29/2011  6:49 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add vinnycoin to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
lots of discussion here: https://goccf.com/t/83152

Basically, if you're buying pure copper bars, you will be paying a premium. copper is about 4 dollars a lb, and most bars go for about 9 dollars a lb.

If you really want to get serious about copper, start collecting the pennies. I think its the pre 88's? (I'm from canada so don't know for sure) that are worth about 3 cents. Once they legalize melting them, you're good to go!
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 Posted 03/29/2011  7:38 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add docsfishn to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Pre-1982 US pennies are copper. Some of the 1982 pennies are copper (weigh 3.1g) and some 1982 pennies are zinc (weigh 2.5g).
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 Posted 03/29/2011  7:53 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add jimineez to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Yep, pre '82....
try to get any metal you are collecting for at, or below, spot price. Premiums are hard to recoup when it is time to sell, especially a premium above 5%-10%, much less 100%+ for a copper bar!
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 Posted 03/29/2011  10:15 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add centsless to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I've never understood the urge to collect copper bars. I guess it's because I'm a plumber and I hoard copper pipe.
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 Posted 03/30/2011  10:35 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add jimineez to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I hear you centsless....
My company does a lot of sheet copper work...gutters, flashing, coping, etc...
When we tear off old copper, it goes in my shop. I turned in over $1000 a few weeks ago!
My only complaint is that they (and everyone) pay nearly a dollar more per pound for wire and pipe than the copper sheet, something about the alloy
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 Posted 03/30/2011  12:10 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add GRR to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I used to work in the scrap industry. we had several grades and prices for copper

From cheapest to most expensive

#2 insulated copper wire---thinner than a pencil lead or stranded we paid around a $1 a pound
#1 insulated copper wire---as thick or thicker than a pencil lead and we paid probably .50 higher a pound
sheet copper-- was in between the 2 wire grades in price. I believe this had to do with impurities and the fact that it took up more space in relation to weight. we didn't bale this, so there's a lot of air space when you go to ship it.
#2 copper---paid more than #1 wire, this would be in the $2-3 a pound range at the time. This was mostly used copper pipe, would have solder joints, and such, random copper pieces , etc.
#1 copper---this was clean or unused pipe and other clean copper pieces. we paid mostly over $3 a pound for this, and a few times it may have pushed over $4.
Bare Bright Copper---this was like bright, clean copper bars, and plate copper. larger machine punchings. most of this came from industrial clients. Power sub stations, etc. I remember having big 50 lb bar/plates of copper. I can't remember paying less than $4 a lb for this.
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 Posted 03/31/2011  11:30 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Coin Chaser to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
The copper market is a rough market to figure out. A few years back the price of copper was very high and people started collecting bars and rounds. Those who bought at a high price have a lot of weight on there hands. The real value for us is to sell our cull pennies and let someone else worry about the larger weights and their storage problems. Remember copper sells by the pound not the ounce. LOL with what ever you do.
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 Posted 04/01/2011  12:20 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add vinnycoin to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
things would have to be very bad if people started to trade in copper. Not only that, you'd have to fight off alot of people trying to break into your house for all the copper plumbing and wiring!
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 Posted 04/01/2011  12:30 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add nod2003 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
That was going on in Detroit during the huge housing crisis they had a couple years back. And some industrial places got burgled for copper wires and piping too. In some places like India, they were even going for steel manhole covers.
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