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Is there a " Red Book" for Europe? I am travelling to Europe next spring and I want to know if they have a specific book for coins of Europe. I do not want to take a gigantic world coin book if I dont need to.
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Whereabouts? There's 50 or so countries in Europe. It's possible that there are books covering geographical groupings like Scandanavia or Iberia, but off hand I can't think of any in English.
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Ok I am going to study in Luxembourg. With visits to France, Germany, UK, Spain, Italy, and various other locations. I dont want to drag around one of the coin books.
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 Posted 04/01/2011  11:35 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Sap to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Not to my knowledge, no. You can get books for each individual country, and you might be able to get a Eurozone book that lists all the different euro coins issued to date (though perhaps not in English), but a Europe-wide book that covers the entire history of coinage for every country in Europe would either be so huge that a Krause catalogue would look like a pocket field guide, or so abbreviated that it would be useless as a working catalogue.
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Each country have had his own coins singe ages, moreover each country was not as they are now.
For example I collect spanish coins, spain was united as it is now (almost) in 1500.
Before, it was a set of small or big places - for example barcelona has its own money (and continued later to have its own)
Plus extra-territorial coins for each country kingdom ...

Compare that to US coinage, which started in 1792 (a bit before if you count legal tender on the territory) - you can imagine how messy it can be :)

In france, which didn't moved as much as spain, there was as well local coinages... it's a mess :D
Unless you are looking for modern coins (post 1800) - when it can be more clear depending on the place.

What are you looking for ? (I'm french)
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I want to collect modern. I don't have the time or funds to do collecting and school in Europe. I would at least like a euro book
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Hum, I don't think we have a serious reference for euro coins yet - those are very new.
I know they sell small coin books in book shops - which are cheap (with advertisement) but list almost everything.
There are real books for older coins though - but I never saw a pocket book for that.

If you go on the euro, you'll easily be able to collect them without a book, there are not that many (unless you go for a special complete date + error set).
Actually, when I say easily, I mean that you won't have issues sorting them out ... you will have issues to find em all :D (never saw a vatican one in my pocket since the euro is out for example - even when I went to the vatican city :p)
You could go for less modern ones as well (recent ones), those are cheap and can be found in flea markets if you come in the summer :)
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Well I was hoping to start a type set of the original 12 with all denominations to the two euro coin
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building a type set won't be too hard from the perspecitve of sorting them out (as someone has said). and if it is your intent to buy out of circulation then you don't really need a ' Red Book'. a 2 Euro coin is going to cost you 2 Euro. My son lives in Germany and he watches for the various types for me so I can get circulated examples which are fine for me.
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weavus135 : even scarce types, like the vatican ones ?
Moreover since the Euro started, there are some new countries - those are not always easy to find :)

It's a nice collection to start, I suppose I don't do it as I see those coins everyday (and I'll regret it in 20 years when we'll have something else)
I sometime keep some special commemorative euros though :)
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not sure what you are asking matheiuma. If you are asking whether my son finds ones from the vatican, that answer is no. He finds a few from the various EU countries but he hasn't found any from like Estonia
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Yep, that's what I was asking :) Getting a complete Euro set from pocket change is close to impossible (unless you own a grocery store)
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There are euro coin books. If you want something for coins pre-euro then each individual country will have its own book or books. But for all the countries you'd need either a large book, or why not get a CD with all the coins on? Slightly lighter than many different books!!

Euro coins will be fun to collect in luxembourg I imagine, belgium, holland, germany and france will be represented a lot, but then you have the travel money, especially in holiday season from now till the end of the summer, greece, portugal, spain, perhaps cyprus will all flow over, and then you get the odds and ends that appear too.

But if you intend to travel you'll find loads. With euros you want to watch out for the €2 commemoratives, there are loads!

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Sure, there are quite a few books/catalogs about euro coins; probably not in English though. In German for example there is the Schön euro catalog. It is paperback style, but since it includes all the collector coins too (regional issues, not intended for circulation), it now has more than 800 pages. There is also a catalog which covers all the €2 coins, commemorative or not, but no other pieces.

If you want to get an overview of what circulates here, have a look at these pages (English version):
http://ec.europa.eu/economy_finance...index_en.htm
... specifically the "Common sides", National sides" and "Commemorative coins" sections (menu on the left).

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 Posted 04/03/2011  10:10 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add coincollector123 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Since it seems like some of you have been to Europe I have a question. How is their banking system? any special things I need to know?
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More than that, some of us actually live here, :)

It's a difficult question to answer because each country will be different. There is some commonality between the Euro using countries but certainly the UK is different from the others in terms of the ability to transfer fins via bank to bank transfer.

I'm not really clear what you mean by "how is their banking system" A bank is a bank - you deposit money and they make interest on it - you borrow money from them and they charge you intrest on that too.
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