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Is This A Silver Twopence ?

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 Posted 04/02/2011  04:14 am Show Profile   Bookmark this topic Add philipj451 to your friends list Get a Link to this Message Number of Subscribers
Hi,
I'm new to this forum and I hope someone might help me identify a coin.
It is 14.5mm diameter and weighs 1 gram.
The obverse has a picture of a tudor rose and the legend "? D G ROSA SINE SPINA". The reverse has a cross in a circle with 3 pellets in each quarter.
I think it is a half-groat (twopence) but I can't find any in my books that do not have an image of the monarch on the obverse hence my question.

thanks for any help
Philip


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 Posted 04/02/2011  6:13 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Meldercat to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Hi, The inscription "D G ROSA SINE SPINA" can be found on coins hammered for Edward VI (son of Henry VIII) and Mary I (daughter of Henry VIII). I have seen a similar coin but I believe it may have been a fantasy copy. Your coin looks as though it may have been cast. I could be wrong and welcome other comments. I have the Spink catalogue for England, Scotland and Ireland and can not find the coin pictured. I hope this helps.
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 Posted 04/02/2011  6:15 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add trout1105 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
E D G ROSA SINE SPINA
Edward VI by the Grace of God a rose without a thorn
Edward VI Silver half Penny
I think
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 Posted 04/02/2011  6:16 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Meldercat to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Also... there is a Rose Crown gold coin from Henry VIII with a similar inscription.
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 Posted 04/02/2011  7:06 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add andyg to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
There are two types of Edward VI halfpenny,
1st type 1547 to 1549 has a portrait obverse, with the cross and pellets reverse.
2nd type 1550 to 1553 has the rose obverse, with a shield reverse.

The coin above is neither having the rose obverse and cross and pellets reverse, which points to it being not genuine. I too think this looks cast rather than hammered, a picture of the edge may solve the argument.
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 Posted 04/03/2011  04:04 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add philipj451 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
thank you for your thoughts and comments.

I had suspected that it would probably be a fake of some sort but I thought that I would get some more expert opinion.

I will try and get a good picture of the edge as suggested, not easy as it is very small !

thanks again
Philip
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