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I have an '89 Canadian 1-cent coin. Trying to find info on it. It's silver (in colour), the same size as a penny (circumference) but skinny like a dime. It's quite light weight. Similar to a dime I suppose. Further, it's struck off center and part of the coin has smooth edging and the other part the 'octogonal' edging. Sorry... I'm not a coin collector so forgive the terminology. Just hoping someone can shed some light. Thanks.
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Pillar of the Community
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Welcome!
Pictures of both sides would help immensely as well as the weight. Can't wait to see it!
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New Member
 Canada
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Here are the pictures (if I'm doing this correctly). Note the coin appears yellow but it is without a doubt silver in colour. I can get the weight but not until tomorrow.  
Edited by JuicyFruit 04/04/2011 12:02 am
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Pillar of the Community
Canada
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Just need the weight. A normal cent would weigh 2.5 gr. and a dime would weigh 2.07 grams. One other thing to do is see if it's attracted to a magnet.
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New Member
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OK, so I weighed the coin and it's 2.056 g and yes it is magnetic.
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Bedrock of the Community
United States
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Weren't these nickel-plated under the copper layer? Perhaps the last layer was omitted? 
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Pillar of the Community
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Not in 89 they were 98% copper. The weight corresponds to a dime planchet or possibly some foreign planchet. I'm leaning to dime myself, magnetic infers pure nickel as opposed to cupro nickel (common foreign planchet - cheaper to use cupro nickel)
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Valued Member
Canada
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-juicyfruit- Cool name and my favorite gum! Lots of flavour and tasty, just doesn't last long. ---I really don't know what I'm looking at here? Yes! Looks a little off center. --- But looks like a penny! --- A dime is not yellow in appearance? You say silver colour! I don't see it! --- Maybe, my thinking is that this penny has been dipped in something?---Maybe it's your picture? I don't know? ---It's also showing some of the twelve sided side on heavier side, half of it!  --- Nice set of scales to get that weight 2.056g, that's close! & Pricey!? I want one! But weight of dime that year would be 2.07grams You say Magnetic? ---I don't know what to think!  Further! (Pause for thought)? ---OK, I might be on to something? --- Perhaps an oversight, correct me if I'm wrong -Ugly-, but the Penny has a diameter of 19.05mm and the dime has 18.03mm! ---If it's on a dime planchet, there would be beads missing or at least on it's edge! ---IMO, maybe this is smoke & mirrors? --- For others, just place a dime on a penny and you will see! ---IMO it's just a penny off center! Just a little! And by the way 
Edited by commoncents13 04/05/2011 04:08 am
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New Member
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Hi Commoncents13. You're right - poor language on my part. The coin appears yellow "in the photograph" but in reality it is silver in colour. I don't know why my pics look as they do - perhaps the fluorescent light? I can try to take better photos if that will help. Any advice on lighting etc. would be appreciated. I have a decent camera so that's not the issue. The weight/scale... yes I work in a lab so it's good but not the best we have. If you require 4 decimal places I can accommodate :)
I haven't a clue what IMO means.
And yes it looks exactly like a penny - only not a copper penny.
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Pillar of the Community
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bad lighting causes a white imbalance, I shifted the gamma back to white by accounting for a fluorescent light with spikes in red and green as per standard cheap fluorescent bulbs. I don't think it's smoke and mirrors CC, you have to allow for what is being photographed , under what light and with what kind of lens when you try and interpret these shots. Finally, this is 1989 we're talking about... the number of available MAGNETIC planchets is limited. I'm leaning to dime but it could be foreign, the weight given by the poster is more or less in the ball park allowing for standard error. Here's a job for you, here are the foreign coins minted at the RCM... dig through the list of countries and find one that corresponds for 1989. http://www.coinscan.com/for/foreign.html
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New Member
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OK, I took another photo under natural light on a white background. Much more accurate. Also added a regular penny for comparison. 
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Valued Member
Canada
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First -Juicy Fruit- IMO, means In My Opinion. ---Ugly - True! Lighting plays a big role in how a subject looks in the end! I know a picture can lie! Intentional or not? ---Have you never been baited or fooled by one? It's real easy to due! ---I'm not saying that -Juicy fruit is playing us but the jury is still out! I'm just stepping carefully he is new, and was his first post! ---Note that I did welcome him! ---He has not gained a reputation yet in all fairness, so maybe I'm a bit sceptical at times but is justified when you see a coin like this, if not he then someone at the mint or somewhere messed with this coin, a coin of unknown composition and is our question? What happened to make this coin? ---Before -Juicy Fruit's- last post with new pictures it was questionable in all fairness! ---I was just being honest! No offence meant, IMO just a question? ---That having been said -Juicy Fruit- I can see the difference now! Thank you! ---I'm looking at the new pictures and they look the same in size! I still stand on my first assessment. ---If it were on a dime planchet the beads would be nearly wiped out on one side so the size plays in this. ---It still looks like a penny just different colour and that it still may have been dipped and that has been done before by experimenters. ---Or maybe -Ugly- is right? In his thinking, it as a foreign coin planchet, is a possible answer and has a different composition making it magnetic, as you say. ---I also had a passing thought that maybe it is a test coin that went kinda wrong? ---In 1989 that was a transition year were changes were in the making for 1990, changing it's effigy, maybe they were trying a composition change and went undisclosed, unsaid? and that sometimes is true! ---So I looked back for examples and in 1943 they did a test penny of copper plated steel that weighed 3.0g maybe this was reversed or just steel? Could that be? The weight is close? ---Then in 1966 they did a test penny out of nickel but weighed 3.50g so to much for nickel unless your weight was wrong, somehow? ---So I come back to (Steel)? I would be curious to explore that as a possibility? ---How about, if you could take a picture with a dime next to your penny and the normal one, side to each other in that order, just for kikes. Thanks!
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Pillar of the Community
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The simplest explanation is very usually the correct one.
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Bedrock of the Community
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 A 10c blank makes a lot of sense. Clearly the die had less metal to strike up the edge.
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Nice! A fairly valuable one at that!
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