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Reason For Stamp And Postmark On Bills?

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I found some Bills with stamps and postmarks in my collection. Whats the reason my Granpa did this?
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they were done when those $2 bills came out in 1976 to celebrate the US Bicentennial. I have several like those. They are first day issues, and some have a value around $4 or higher depending on the post office.
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There are people that dislike these and think it just defaces notes that would otherwise be collectible.

On another note it is very easy for someone to make these. Buy some stamps appropriate to the time period, have a rubber stamp made and crank them out just like the people on ebay do.
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The 1976 series $2s were first issued on April 13, 1976- they are First Day of Issue cancellations.


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have a rubber stamp made and crank them out just like the people on ebay do.

I would think that replicating a USPS cancellation stamp would constitute postal fraud.


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Mine was postmarked at the Jefferson National Expansion Memorial, aka The Gateway Arch

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Cheaper than sending a postcard, but they rarely make it to their destination.
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Haha, Ok I get it now, its sorta cool to have a first day issue.
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Like Nickelman said,
There are currency collectors that dislike stuff like this because it defaces notes that would otherwise be collectible. Same for the "colorized" $ 2.00 notes. I'm one of those collectors that dislike it, if the BEP didn't do it, it wont be in my collection.

The more notes messed up like this the less good ones there are for real currency collectors.
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I used to have several of these when I was 12. I think I spent them at McDonalds. What a dummy.
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There are currency collectors that dislike stuff like this because it defaces notes that would otherwise be collectible. Same for the "colorized" $ 2.00 notes. I'm one of those collectors that dislike it, if the BEP didn't do it, it wont be in my collection.

The more notes messed up like this the less good ones there are for real currency collectors.


Im not really wondering if its right or wrong, just why my Grandpa did it. There are hundreds of other $2 Bills in this collection he didn't put a stamp on.. I think its kinda neat that they are first day issue, but I suppose based on purely a visual perspective, I like Bills with no markings or stamps better...or at least he could have used nicer looking stamps. Hehe.
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He probably did it just because it was neat and he could. Don't forget that back then a 1976 $ 2.00 bill was not very collectible, it was just a new note and in most places you could go to your bank and get a handful of them, put a real nice one away in your collection and do what you want with the rest. It's a neat thing to have but me personally, I wouldn't need one in my FRN collection.
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I believe mine were stamped and post marked at my local post office on that day, and I have no reason to believe otherwise. They won't be the first or last thing that would be spent from my small currency collection.
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I have a couple of those too, and to me they have unimaginable premium, simply because I know my grandma and grandpa took the effort to go to their local post office & do it-- and because I know that to them in that time period $2 was a lot of money.
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I personally do not have any bills with first day of issue stamps, however, I would not mind a few just to say I have them but I do not have any interest in the colorized bills advertised on the television either. I will same my funds for real collectible coins and bills.But this is just my personal choice.
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I have a few $2's w/the first day of issue postmark on them, and I enjoy them.

Last summer, I got about $20 of them, from my bank. I just walked in, and asked if they had any $2's. The teller reached into her drawer, and pulled out 10 stamped series 1976's, all with the stamps on them, and all in sequential order.

I thought that was pretty neat, so I kept them.
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It seems odd to me that everyone who chimed in has $2 bills. Is this phenomenon restricted to $2?

Also was this something done in conjunction with the USPS? I had only ever seen my grandparent's and I figured they knew everyone in town, including the post office workers, and it was just something they did...but now I'm realizing this seems to be fairly widespread. And now I'm thinking it would be cool to put together a collection of diferent locales...
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Is this phenomenon restricted to $2?

The vast majority of postmarked bills you encounter will be 1976 series $2s. However, others are out there-

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I created three sets of these notes in 2009. Four crisp consecutive $5s, each with one of the four new(at the time) Lincoln life stamps, were hand cancelled by the USPS which set up a station at the Old State Capitol in Springfield, IL on Feb 12, 2009- the Lincoln Bicentennial. They were there to cancel the First Day covers for the stamps but gladly cancelled my notes as well.


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Also was this something done in conjunction with the USPS?

I am almost certain that at least some of them were done in conjunction with the USPS and I base that on the $2 example I posted. Notice the postmark- Jefferson National Expansion Memorial, aka The Gateway Arch. The Arch does not have its own Post Office, the stamp was done by a temporary station such as the one at the Old State Capitol in Springfield for my $5s. It is also worth noting that the USPS will NOT cancel any item that does not have a stamp on it- that bit of info came directly from Springfield's Postmaster.
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