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 Posted 04/06/2011  10:12 am Show Profile   Bookmark this topic Add Brucec to your friends list Get a Link to this Message Number of Subscribers
In June I have a small CD coming due for $18,000 not sure if I should cash it in pay the tax now as it will be going up our taxes and then purchase gold or silver?

OR keep the CD and just roll it over short term hoping interest rates go up.
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 Posted 04/06/2011  10:28 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add vinnycoin to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Sorry, for those of us unfamiliar with the term, but what does CD mean?
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 Posted 04/06/2011  10:28 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add emh to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Hard to say without knowing the rest of your situation. Do you have any debt outside of a mortgage? Do you have 3-6 months of savings? Would you be comfortable with that 18k decreasing by 50% to 9k in the next 6 months? 1 year,5 year (Risk Tolerance)? Do you need that 18k for anything e,g, new car, down payment on a home, kids education?
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 Posted 04/06/2011  10:32 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add emh to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
vinnycoin: CD = Certificate of Deposit. It's an investment vehicle that is similar to a savings account but has limitations in the sense that you can't touch the money for a specific term, like 6 months, or 1 year. The longer you lock it in the higher the rate becomes. There are varying criticisms on CD's, Personally I do not like them I'd rather use a money market.
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 Posted 04/06/2011  10:39 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add odentheviking to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I had an 18 month CD for years, worked it up to 6%! Then last year when it auto-renewed they dropped me to just over 1%. You can be sure I will be taking that cash out to buy SOMETHING shiny this July!
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 Posted 04/06/2011  10:46 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add carmykle to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
By July, the interest rates may be up where you might reconsider. If you still want something shiny...go for it. Just make sure you have a large enough contingency fund.
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 Posted 04/06/2011  11:36 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add OneBowl to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I'd need to know how your entire balance sheet looks, your risk tolerance, future requirements, etc. to really answer. Time and time again though, people tend to think in whole, rather than parts or phases. You could roll over 15, invest 3. Go 6/6/6 with another investment. Whatever. The one thing I wouldn't do is dump 100% in PMs all at once unless I could accept the potential casino outcome that could bring. Good luck.
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 Posted 04/06/2011  11:52 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add vinnycoin to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
ahh ok gotcha, sound like a TSFA up here in Canada.

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 Posted 04/06/2011  12:03 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add mshev to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Good advice by OneBowl. Personally I am avoiding CDs right now because the minimal return is not worth the tied up cash. My portfolio is mainly in stocks at the moment, with about 10% in metals and coins with numismatic value. I've been slowly upgrading some of my silver into higher grade coins as silver has been rising.
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 Posted 04/06/2011  2:54 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Coin Chaser to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Like previous contributors stated "unless you are ready to take the risk" stay out of the pool. A bird in the hand is worth two in the bush. We who have gold or silver in hand still has to be sold for currency and the rate is ever changing. If you want to speculate I would recommend investing only 20-28% in Gold or Silver coins. The rest keep protected. LOL Only my opinion.
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 Posted 04/06/2011  3:11 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Silverhawk74 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
My poor grandfather has all his life earnings tied up in cd's and he claims that they are not worth near what they once were. Fortunately he has some rental property bringing in income, or him and my grand mother would be in much worse shape, minus what they already both are in being very ill and close to the end....

Part of me wanted to try an convince him to invest in some gold an silver, but being from another generation, an totally clueless on computer technology and the means an ability to move an sell products in this new technical world, it would be like trying to convince a mule to carry a 200 pound load up a mountain....

My grandfather himself was all about the cd, worked his fingers to bone entire life, lawn mower repair, a junk/flea market guy, buy anything cheap, fix an sell for a profit. Also worked as a meat cutter for years at Kroger, saved every penny, had and lived on next to nothing, just what they needed. I recall story's of living in silver stream in fifty's, pump whale for water, no power, 30 bucks a week earned working two jobs, one 12 hours a day tossing mattresses in a mattress factory. Tied it all up in cd's, and so the rest of the family has sucked him dry, that an the economy, and now he can't hardly see, no balance to walk, smoked filter less pal mals an drank coffee since age of 7 and he is 79. Ten siblings, 3 sisters and 7 brothers all gone now, minus one other sister, the oldest. One even died two weeks after the war in Patton's division, injured in post war skirmishes....

Sorry for the rant, but my point is he never took a chance beyond that darn specialized savings account, via cd's and to me that was a waste, and this is coming form the guy who is so anti gamble, that I will not even waste a dollar on a lottery ticket. That is not always the right way to think in the end I feel now, some times you gotta take a chance....
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 Posted 04/06/2011  9:16 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add tripncoins to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Buy a 5 OZ Gold Pamp Bar and put the rest on Silver.
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 Posted 04/06/2011  10:22 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Brucec to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Well after posting that realize gold and silver can change allot in the next month two months.

Will do not really care to publish my life's financial report on the public INTERNET. Let's just say that money I can live without and everything I have has been paid for for quite a few years now.

Guess I will wait more closer the June maturity date and then ask opinions again, know it is up to me but I like other peoples advice also.
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 Posted 04/06/2011  10:50 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add tripncoins to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Bruce - if that's the case, get the 5 oz bar for sure :). In my humble opinion, gold is going no where but up..steadily and put the rest on silver. Just two quick cents.
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 Posted 04/06/2011  11:23 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Frazzle to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
No Way would I recommend buying into PMs right now,This has gone too high too fast....Its your money to lose,but keep a close eye on the dollar index
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 Posted 04/07/2011  09:13 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Brucec to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Well thanks for your information, I have been buying PM for several years now so hate to be paying these rates it scares you. I do buy for security as I feel the US dollar is doomed have thought this for some time now. And the stock market is being kept alive by the Feds printing press this can't keep up forever no way I will put a dollar in the market took it all out some time ago. Really do not plan on spending the PM but let it for my kids unless something happens and I need it.

Two of my retirement pensions come from the government since the government is bankrupt that is scary. Semper fi

Anyway I like small one ounce gold and one ounce and even half ounce silver figure it is easier to sell more people can buy it than a big 5oz bar.

No one knows what will happen it's anyone's guess but when you look at the world and the US dollar almost impossible to see things getting better.
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