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 Posted 04/07/2011  11:33 pm Show Profile   Bookmark this topic Add Danester to your friends list Get a Link to this Message Number of Subscribers
Can you help me identify this Japanese 5 Sen coin. It is a small coin - 15mm in diameter (about the size of our old 3-Cent Silver). Searching on ebay I think it may be -- "Year 6 (1873) Japan 5 Sen - .800 Silver, Type I, ..... Emperor Mutsuhito, Meiji era". I don't read Japanese. So, can anyone confirm this is or let me know the correct attribution.

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 Posted 04/08/2011  08:24 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Sap to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Yep. Sounds good to me.
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 Posted 04/08/2011  12:55 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add echizento to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Nice coin.
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 Posted 04/08/2011  11:17 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Danester to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Which part shows the Date, which part shows the "Emperor Mutsuhito, Meiji era"?
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 Posted 04/08/2011  11:52 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Yass to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Dates can be found here
http://dateconverter.net/japanese/1873/?hl=en

Japanese date information can be found here
http://www.conservapedia.com/Japanese_dates
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 Posted 04/09/2011  01:03 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add goodwin to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
本- 大 - The Great Japan
年.治明 - Meiji Year 6

"e - 5 Sen
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 Posted 04/09/2011  03:35 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Danester to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Very good - Thanks for the links and information. One last question. Any idea on value. I will most likely put this coin up for auction on ebay next week.
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 Posted 04/09/2011  06:46 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add goodwin to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
this is what you get if you search "meiji year 6" on the most popular numismatic auction in japan - "yahoo auction" (" ebay"? what is "ebay!?"... )))...)

http://auctions.search.yahoo.co.jp/...ce&ei=euc-jp

seller of this "1 sen" set starting price at 1500 yen = 18 usd:
http://page2.auctions.yahoo.co.jp/j...n/b106177574

the one you have is obviously in much better condition
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 Posted 04/09/2011  2:44 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Danester to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Goodwin, thank you for all the help with this coin. I am looking at my wall, and I see a framed Japanese water-color painting of a bird flying to a flowered tree branch (may be a Cherry Tree). I have been wanting to know for many years what it says along the right edge. Can you tell me?

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 Posted 04/09/2011  6:41 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add goodwin to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
i wish I could help you but... though I've spent a considerable amount of years studying japanese, as yet am still far from consummation)

I'm not a native japanese speaker but even for a native one - if they are not trained in calligraphy - reading and comprehending the meaning of such a writing would not be an easy business... there is a joke (kind of) in japanese saying that something is written so skilfully that it cannot be read at all)...

it may be some haiku (providing if it is in japanese in the first place, though it looks like it is)

one thing I can say is - as the inscription contains the symbol "." - that the tree is what is called "ume" or a "japanese apricot / plum", thus the bird is probably "uguisu" - "bush warbler" because "ume" and "uguisu" is considered an auspicious combination
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 Posted 04/09/2011  7:54 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Danester to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Goodwin, thank you again.

Yass... You da Man !

Let me try one of those.
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 Posted 04/09/2011  9:55 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add gxseries to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
This calligraphy is still easy to read - Yass might not be too off that it might be Chinese instead of Japanese although his joke isn't too funny.

My Japanese and Chinese is getting rusty so I might be a bit off. It's somewhere along the lines of a branch of ume facing the light, painted in 1924 or 1984 (dated in sexagenary cycle) - prosperity to come for a long time.
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This must be a Chinese water-color painting. That's a Plum Tree not Cherry Tree.
The Chinese along the right edge that says "One Plum
to make the spring more beautiful" and another Sentence tell us the date and the author of thepainting. The year is the "jiazi"(chinese year) 、 the Season is Spring,and the name of Painter is Ye Yongjia.
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 Posted 04/18/2011  6:37 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Danester to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Tirtonzzb, Thank you for the information.

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Doing a search on the Internet, the Chinese calendar was based on a cycle combination of 10 heavenly stems and 12 earthly branches. 60 combinations formed a cycle of 60 years. Jiazi "子 is formed by the Jia " (1st of the 10 heavenly stems) and Zi 子 (1st of 12 earthly branches).

According to chinese history, the 1st year reign of Huangdi is supposedly the starting point for Chinese calendar (i.e. Jiazi "子 year)

What year in the current 60-year cycle does this Jaizi represent?


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