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Any One Able To ID This Hammerd

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 Posted 10/13/2006  7:47 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add pat44 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Hmmm..i think it's french...this is what I think it is..but I'm not 100 percent sure:

Comte de Hainaut
Seigneurie de florennes
Gaucher de Chatillon (1346-1322)
A/Tete de face couronnee
R/Croix cantonnee de 12 globules . Estertain- AR

Ref: B.2171


English:

County of Hainaut
Seigeneurie(is someone like a Lord) Of Florennes.
Gaucher de Chatillon is a french military..that's his name...and 1346-1322..is probably for how long he ruled.
http://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gauche...%C3%A2tillon

Obverse : His head crowned
Reverse : A cross with 12 confined globules





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Ok..here's a coin like yours :

http://www.cgb.fr/monnaies/vso/v17/...iesb736.html


But he is crowned on this coin...on yours he is not
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Well, the general design of a facing portrait one side and long cross with three pellets on the other was common at the time - mostly copying the design of English hammered coins.

The city named on the reverse (the "cross side" seems to be MEL ?D IEN SIS, "Melnodiensis" or some variant. I'm having trouble getting a match... the closest I've found is "Meldensis" for Meaux, France, but I haven't a detailed reference to know if that was a mint-city at the time in question. But I'd say it's definitely not an English mint.
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why would there be no crown
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Not sure. It could be an ecclesiastical issue?
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