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 Posted 04/13/2011  8:08 pm Show Profile   Bookmark this topic Add Ed_B to your friends list Get a Link to this Message Number of Subscribers

Silver prices pulled back and closed below $40/oz. yesterday. Like a great fighter who takes one on the chin from time to time, though, it came right back today and closed above $40 with a small gain. Although the size of the gain was small, the fact that it came back so quickly indicates that silver has plenty of strength and staying power at its current price level.

Everything in the silver market indicates that higher prices are more likely than lower prices, so if we are to see lower silver prices, it is likely that something external to the silver market will be required.

The most likely event would be something in the US financial markets that stabilizes and increases the strength of the US dollar. None of the past 3 US administrations has seemed interested in supporting the dollar, so it doesn't seem likely that this will suddenly reverse itself. The workings of the minds of the Fed bankers and economists are more than a little arcane. QE2 is scheduled to end in June. If it does, the market support offered by it will end and the question then becomes, "Can the US stock market maintain its current price level without this support?". If the stock market starts to sink, we could see a rush of investors, all heading for the exits, and looking to put their money into something that will maintain its value better than holding cash. A serious amount of that money could very well head into gold and silver, pushing their prices up considerably. $2000+ an oz. gold and $55+ an oz. silver would not be out of the question.

This summer will definitely be an interesting time for investors, both in the stock market and in the PM markets.
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 Posted 04/13/2011  9:16 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Silverhawk74 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Citi financial keeps trying to get me to come down and take a quick no questions asked 5 grand for whatever, lol. Forget about the eye gauging interest rate I would be afraid to even ask about. If I was a bit more of a gambler I would take that 5 grand and buy a 125 oz of the shinny silver stuff, pay the monthly bill for 6 or 8 months, and then sell it and all within realistic possibility of doubling ones money and pay it off and keep the change....

One thing is for sure, if I was stupid enough to do that, silver would drop off the face of the earth, within a couple of weeks of purchase, which would probably make most of ya happy where you could stock up at 5 bucks an oz rof....

I wouldn't do it for my luck and the jinx factor, but I bet it would be a safe gamble as silver seems to be stopped by nothing these days, like the little engine that could I keep sayin....
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04/14/2011 02:23 am
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I agree with both of you,silver is about to take off. Gold has me a bit worried though,seems to have lost steam. As I watch the dollar index in relation to gold it looks like a lot of selling going on. I read an article the other day that in India folks are selling gold and converting it to silver,but then,the Chinese central bank is slowly buying gold,hmmmm. Maybe it is time for some profit taking on half my gold and convert it to silver,what do you all think?
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 Posted 04/14/2011  12:22 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add LastGold to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Hockingzig:

Sell the gold and buy silver. Your instincts are right. Silver will outperform gold in the coming years.

I don't know how much you have read on the subject. But here are some names to plug into the search engine. Ted Butler, Jason Hommel, JP Morgan, Andrew Mcguire.

Just plug any of these into a search engine "+ silver".

Lots to read.





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Gold has been going forward 25 and pulling back like say 15, more of the two steps forward one step back. Settin at 1472 like 30 seconds ago, and I expect 1500 an oz here before the month is over. I only have 12 grams of gold, and I have thought like you above on selling an converting into silver, but alas it is such a small amount, not really worth the time an effort for just over half a grand in gold. I think I will hold on, mainly keep buying silver, and add an occasional small gold coin when I can when priced right. Like Ed B keeps saying.... He wishes he had got into gold back before it doubled then tripled in price, so I figure if 5000 dollar gold will happen one day, and I believe it is a question of when not if, then a person has to take a stand an say the heck with it, and I am buying gold at this price, and just deal with it....

And the big point here folks, silver is creeping torwards 42 an oz as we speak, "I think I can, I think I can!", lol....
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04/14/2011 1:58 pm
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omg I'm so sick of silver threads
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 Posted 04/14/2011  2:25 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add ayejay1974 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Libertad: What do you expect in the bullion section? Especially since its obvious it is outperforming all other bullion lately.
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I was going to delete that since it's in my sig now :D but I meant the amount of topics pertaining to silver are crowding the active topics, that's all. Nothing meant by it, I'm just exhausted. Still a silver bug.
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04/14/2011 2:57 pm
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No I feel you Libertad. I have been to obsessed with it as well, just let it go where it is gonna go eh....

You know when you think about an issue to much, you will dream about that subject, and you know you are thinking about it too much. I dream about silver, buying it, they are meaningless dreams that just go no where like an endless circle, but hey, at least I don't dream about scary things, like falling off a building an waking up at last second, or whatever....

I did the same thing with playing chess, trying to figure out a way to push that rating up, which is just another great math formula for copulating wins, and of course wins vs. higher rated players, results in more rating points won. Eventually, I realized I can beat a 1800 to 2000 rated player like 1 out of 20 tries, and that just is what it is, and I am not gonna get any smarter. Bobby Fisher was well in excess of 2400, which is the level for a grand master....

I think it is that buzz, which pushes silver closer an closer to main forum water cooler talk if you will however, which I am not sure will be a good thing or a bad thing for us coin/bullion collectors. I recently ran into an old buddy from about ten years back, and he told me after we chatted for a bit, that he had been surfing silver an gold a bit, and was wondering what was the best way to acquire it at a good price, so it is creeping into the conscious of every day people....

Remember, to first have gotten here, you had to find your way here yourself, which is not possible minus a computer, Internet connection, and a tiny bit of search engine knowledge. As it is unlikely you just stumbled upon it, and if you did, you were searching for coins or bullion to begin with. That puts us all a wee bit ahead of the curve IMO....
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04/14/2011 3:32 pm
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Silverhawk74 - sounds like an interesting thread ("I dream about silver"). I too had a dream about buying silver last night. Can't remember much of it, though. Anyone else?
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I do wonder when the ceiling will be hit by silver. I have sold some large sums in the last few months and recently my dealer had taken in over $30,000 just today in silver! Makes me wonder when the selling will out weigh demand. He told me he has taken in so much in the last several months it's getting harder for him to find a buyer for it all.
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Citi financial keeps trying to get me to come down and take a quick no questions asked 5 grand for whatever, lol.

Yeah, I bet that they are. Those banksters just refuse to learn anything. Didn't we just come through a banking fiasco where most of them had to be "saved" from their own stupidity? (As if that was even possible!) This looks to me like more of the same.


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One thing is for sure, if I was stupid enough to do that, silver would drop off the face of the earth, within a couple of weeks of purchase, which would probably make most of ya happy where you could stock up at 5 bucks an oz rof....

I wouldn't do it for my luck and the jinx factor, but I bet it would be a safe gamble as silver seems to be stopped by nothing these days, like the little engine that could I keep sayin....

On the other hand, Silverhawk, we might be able to use you as a canary in the coal mine. Just let us know when you are planning to do this so we can all short silver!
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I agree with both of you,silver is about to take off. Gold has me a bit worried though,seems to have lost steam. As I watch the dollar index in relation to gold it looks like a lot of selling going on. I read an article the other day that in India folks are selling gold and converting it to silver,but then,the Chinese central bank is slowly buying gold,hmmmm. Maybe it is time for some profit taking on half my gold and convert it to silver,what do you all think?

I strongly agree, Hockingzig. Gold has had a great run from around $250 in 2001. It has gone up nearly 500% in the past decade, so could be nearing the end of its most recent run up. Unfortunately for those of us who try to figure the gold market out, there are so many wheels within wheels where gold is concerned that it is difficult to tie price moves to any particular action that we know about. That said, I would think that at this stage of the PM rally, silver still has more room to run than gold has on a % basis.

If silver does continue its run, it is likely that the gold:silver ratio will decline because silver is rising faster than gold. When it seems to be flattening out, that will be the time to cash in the silver and buy gold.

All IMHO, of course. YMMV.
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Sell the gold and buy silver. Your instincts are right. Silver will outperform gold in the coming years.

I agree, Lastgold. I don't know just how far silver has to run but if it approaches the traditional 16:1 or so gold:silver ratio and gold is pushing $1600/oz., that would give us $100 silver.
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...I figure if 5000 dollar gold will happen one day, and I believe it is a question of when not if, then a person has to take a stand an say the heck with it...

I agree, Silverhawk. I also think that gold will slowly rise to higher levels, although there may well be some backing and filling between now and then.

Anyone who is into collecting bullion for the long haul doesn't worry about the price because they know that they will be buying in at various price levels over time. This is no different than dollar cost averaging into a stock or mutual fund position.

I picked up $1000 in crisp new $100s at my CU today and will be on the prowl at the local coin shop tomorrow!
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omg I'm so sick of silver threads

Well, WAAAHHH! Lol. Not that this snuck up on you, Libertad. The dreaded "S" word IS in the topic title.
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