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I Almost Cried When I Saw This.

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Obviously, there are more severe things that could be done to coins then fingerprints but man, one this beautiful

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I saw that on DL's website, it is a nice looking coin finger print or not. The bad thing about it is that chances are that the finger print was put on there when it was slabbed by a PCGS employee since they do not use gloves
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No gloves?! Really? I didn't realize that. So why should we be sending coins off to be slabbed?
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The bad thing about it is that chances are that the finger print was put on there when it was slabbed by a PCGS employee since they do not use gloves



Wow, I hope not. I mean, even circ strikes are bad to touch on the surface, but on proof coins that is the ultimate sin! If it is a PCGS employee, the good news is we have forensic evidence needed to track him down!
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I'm not so sure that's a fingerprint. Looks like patterning from the fabric of a bag, tho I dunno why a proof would be in a bag.
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it really looks like a finger print to me
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Looks like patterning from the fabric of a bag,


I'm more inclined to go with a fingerprint. The lines curve.

Since this coin is a proof, it's MUCH more susceptible to fingerprints. (At least it's not on the obverse...)
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Really, no gloves?
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I don't really see a problem here. Just dipping it in Jewlery Cleaners for a few days should fix that.
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It would be interesting to send it back to CAC and see if they would still consider it premium quality for the assigned grade. If they agree the fingerprint make it less than a PQ PR-67 coin that would suggest the print developed after the coin was slabbed. That in turn would implicate the handling process at PCGS.

I wonder if crime lab technicians could obtain a usable partial print from it, and whether that could be done without further damaging the coin?
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That fingerprint was on there when the coin was slabbed, unless you think that coin did all that toning and turned those colors in the slab in the less than five years since it was put in that holder.
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I said chances are, not that it was a fact that it happened at PCGS. There is always going to be a chance since they do not wear gloves
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I, like others, find it surprising that they don't wear gloves. There must be a reasoning behind it. But what?
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Wearing gloves reduces tactile sensitivity. One is more likely to drop a coin when wearing gloves. Dropping it could be worse than touching it. As long as it is handled by the edge, gloves are unnecessary.
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