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Now You Know Where Your Counterfeits Are Coming From

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My partial coin collection http://www.omnicoin.com/collection/gxseries
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 Posted 10/16/2006  11:22 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add mishap-coins to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Who would buy that die set ? a Federal Agent or a Crooked Coin Dealer or just a crook ? Maybe even a museum ? lol
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 Posted 10/16/2006  11:27 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add TwoKopeiki to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I would buy a die set to learn more about this specific counterfeit. At least it wouldn't fool anyone knowledgeable about the series.

Neither would this portrait of Carolus III (another sold die by this seller):

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 Posted 10/16/2006  11:44 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add gxseries to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
TwoKopeiki, did you notice the shipping price? Nasty hidden prices really.
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 Posted 10/16/2006  11:48 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add TwoKopeiki to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Wow, another $70U.S. for shipping/insurance. Didn't notice that.
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 Posted 10/16/2006  10:09 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add swamperbob to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
At least the prices they are asking for dies is dropping. The fist few pairs were offered for about $2,000 - these are more reasonable.

Did you notice the second pair of reverse dies (for the Yen) included one with a "chop" mark already in place on the die!
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 Posted 10/16/2006  10:16 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Dewayne76 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Chop mark in place. They think of everything these days.
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 Posted 10/17/2006  08:23 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add swamperbob to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
As a related topic - if you check the auctions now on ebay by this Hong Kong seller

http://search.ebay.com/_W0QQsassZizsale

You will see the actual cost of these forgeries near the source. The coins marked "COPY" are off metal but seem to be made with dies similar to the silver copies.

Also regarding my previous comment on the "chop" mark on the die - that is technically a GIN countermark. When Japan demonetized the Yen (because of the drop in silver prices) they stamped the coins with the GIN mark (meaning silver) and they shipped the coins to other countries where they were still accepted as money. The GIN mark kept the coins from returning to Japan as payments. The GIN was always applied AFTER the coin was made and it was never part of a die.
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 Posted 10/17/2006  11:06 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Bryan1315 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I am just surprised that no one mentioned it has a reverse die for a Trade dollar and the obverse of a seated liberty
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