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Pillar of the Community
United States
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So, I was thinking the number that would probably force me into the thought of selling, would be 150 an oz. If silver hit that number the economy could not be good, and the dollar would be probably be at record lows, so keeping those dollars is probably not an option for me in that situation....
Takes money to make money obviously, so with that money made on silver, which would then just be enough for a more substantial investment.... Short of being able to afford some current dirt cheap lake front property (that is if I can keep adding silver, and I won yet another lunar coin earlier tonight, the rooster 2005 at 74 bucks, so the price is not stopping me thus far), I would prefer to stay in coins an medals however, perhaps some platinum, or some other medal with a great future in sight, if I ever sell the silver....
Any thoughts or ideas?
Even with me buying silver at high prices an premiums which most of you would consider foolish (keep in mind that is money I would waste elsewhere), so even breaking even and converting into money when I need it, is what I call money in my bank.... Edited by Silverhawk74 04/22/2011 02:48 am
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Pillar of the Community
United States
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I wouldn't invest in any other PM right now besides silver. It is out performing every other metal. Silver can be very volatile but just ride the waves and you'll be fine. If you don't buy property with your earnings, buy food.
If silver hits one fifty an ounce, that will probably mean that oil/gas and food will see ridiculous prices. Buy freeze dried foods from sites that sell it in cans that have a shelf life of thirty years or so. On Costco's website you can find a years supply of food, with shelf lifes of thirty or so years,for a family of four for about 4 grand. That is a very reasonable price if you divide it all out and figure out the daily/weekly/monthly/yearly cost of the food.
I'm thinking of selling a portion of my physical silver in a year or so and buying a nice piece of lake or river front property out here in Washington state. My only stipulation is that the piece of property is capable of supporting a few nice sized gardens/orchards/animals. I buy a lot of silver and I need to constantly remind myself that, when it comes down to it, I can't eat precious metals! ;)
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No doubt Mitch, food and water can not be taken for granite, and if silver hits that figure, we may be in such bad shape, that may be all we need to care about then....
1. Water 2. food 3. Shelter
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Bedrock of the Community
Australia
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Lots of people in the U.S. have lost money on real estate. The market has bottomed out. To a lot of people in America, real estate stinks. If Americans won't buy their own real estate, I guarantee foreigners will! There is currently huge long term upside potential for your kids.
The Chinese are going gangbusters buying up Australian mineral production and Australian farms, to guarantee their food supply. Australians are bound eventually, to suffer very severely from this.
If you haven't enough money from your silver profits to buy outright, you can always buy units in a real estate trust. Industrial commercial or residential; you choose.
Right now, that may seem silly, but that's where large profits from the sale of silver should go. If the size of the profit is smaller, you can do no better than numismatic investment; you choose.
Numismatic investments are counter cyclical.
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That bothers me to hear your guys country is selling that farm land to China Sel691. With their ridiculous population numbers, they are obviously gonna be after that farm land in order to feed their masses....
Edited by Silverhawk74 04/22/2011 03:48 am
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United States
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You're bordering the collector/investor line. 74.00 for a one oz coin is not a sound investment (currently), but it's a nice collector's item. If silver reaches 74.00 an oz, that coin will bring roughly $80.00. A silver Eagle bought for 48.00 to 50.00 will sell for 80.00. You see the point. Also, on 90% silver right now, if you look hard enough, you will spot the good deals. My last 5 purchases have been large lots of Franklin halves and Pre 1965 Washington quarters (Proofs, and uncirculated)taken right from a mint set, or still in the mint cellophane, for melt price. Completely mint state or Gems. Why buy bags or lots of worn, rubbed out coins? With physical possession, you can only lose money if you sell it. It's not stocks, and will never be worthless. If you're like me, I'm in no hurry. I am 36 years old, have been buying for years. I can choose to take my profits now, or wait it out. No way it's going to be lower than it is now in 30 years. My DCA currently is $12/oz, but I still buy weekly. I'm not real concerned at all with any short term results. But even if if I had a DCA of 35-40, and had a plan of up to 20 years, I would feel safer in silver than our dollar. Keep stacking.
Edited by ayejay1974 04/22/2011 03:59 am
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I am with you Ajay1974, as I have no plans to sell anytime soon either. And you are right, silver should fetch a decent penny at the pace it is on now, IN 30 YEARS, lol....
I am just curious what the ones who do sell, may think the next move is there after....
Perhaps like you said, the best move is no move at all except to keep stacking, as we are already talking about the best performing metal at this current moment in time....
Edited by Silverhawk74 04/22/2011 03:57 am
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United States
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Quote: Even with me buying silver at high prices an premiums which most of you would consider foolish (keep in mind that is money I would waste elsewhere), so even breaking even and converting into money when I need it, is what I call money in my bank.... That's the way I look at it. When I buy coins or silver or gold at fair market prices, it's not like I'm buying a boat or motorcycle or cruise that will be gone or worn out in a few years. Don't get me wrong, I think a boat or motorcycle or cruise would be great if I could afford it right now. With hard assets you can convert them to cash when need be. Just make sure they're in a relatively liquid form. When I sell off a big chunk of my PMs it's (hopefully) going to be for a down-payment on a house. My sell point is $75/oz for silver. At that price I'd sell half of what I have. I'm still kicking myself about my gold purchases in 2008. I quit buying when it hit $1,000 and only bought a few more ounces when it fell back to $800. I see silver right now where gold was 3 years ago. There could be pullbacks in silver well below $40/oz but I really believe it will go to $75/oz within 2-3 years.
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United States
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I know several who have sold recently. They are banking on a correction to 30-32 to get back in. Free silver. Problem is, that's like running to Vegas and slamming your money on Black. Sometimes that correction never happens.
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Bedrock of the Community
United States
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P.S. I did buy that silver lot tonight and will have about 10ozs for sale next week at melt price w/insured delivery in the U.S.
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United States
314 Posts |
What silver lot are you talking about BH?
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Pillar of the Community
United States
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At that price I would probably be trading some for bullets.
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Valued Member
Philippines
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next step for me is hoard gold coins...
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Pillar of the Community
Canada
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Maybe then you could change your name finally to CopperHawk74. But seriously, you're really praying for a global catastrophe, here. $150/oz? I hope it never reaches that ridicule. What kinds of medals do you collect? Olympic? War?
Edited by Libertad 04/22/2011 08:32 am
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United States
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AyeJay I know several who have sold recently. They are banking on a correction to 30-32 to get back in. Free silver. Problem is, that's like running to Vegas and slamming your money on Black. Sometimes that correction never happens.My feeling on the whole thing is that this rapid rise in price IS a price correction. After decades of institutional price suppression I feel that silver is just racing to find it's historic value area of 16 to 1 ratio with gold. As far as what to do with it after selling. Hard to tell everyone's situation is different and when someone sells who knows what condition the economy or the country for that matter will be in. If things are very bad then maybe some land near a water source for growing food for ones family. If things have not gone to a Mad Max World, Heck maybe a new toy that you can enjoy. After all we spend a lot of time in our chosen hobby learning all these aspects of the world economy and how they influence each other. Why should we not greatly benefit from it and have even more fun than we do with our hobby. given that we had the fore sight to buy tons of a metal that almost every "financial expert" on the planet screamed at everyone was just a barbaric relic of the past and was not worth anything any more. When it has been actual money for thousand of years. For myself, I don't think I can ever have too many motorcycles. So another new one would be fun if the S*&T Does NOT Hit The Fan.
Edited by stewart 04/22/2011 09:47 am
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Valued Member
United States
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Stewart I am in the same boat as you. I believe this IS a correction to it's true value as well. Also, I do not fall for the "you don't want silver to be $150 an ounce" thing. People saying that bread would also be $10 a loaf, gas $10 a gallon, yadda, yadda. It has already risen 300% in a little over a year, and I can still buy a loaf of bread for a buck. What's going to make it all of a sudden change? It's not the price of silver that will determine food and gas prices going parabolic, it's the value of our dollar, which seems to be in a death spiral. Anyone who has read some of my posts, already knows I am a huge silverbug. But here is my simple philosophy.
I have a vast collection of various rounds, bars, silver coins, and .999 silver from around the world. I have most everything in Mint state, housed in airtites. I also have rolls of common junk silver in various denominations. I do have a sell price for the latter, but will convert that into BU items as well.
If our dollar tanks, or we move to a different currency, the people who are left with dollars, will certainly lose a portion of their wealth during the transfer to the new currency, maybe even a great portion, as they held out too long. Once the dust settles, precious metals will be revalued in terms of the new currency, and I will have more wealth than those that held out.
Scenario B: We get our economy back on track, the future starts looking bright. People will most certainly move away from metals and get back into the markets, bringing the price down, maybe even rather quickly. I have not lost anything. My net worth may go down, but I still have a great collection, with alot of variety to enjoy, and I live in a country that is finally going in the right direction. I can then keep adding to my collection, only cheaper. Win Win.
I prefer scenario B personally. I have almost 30 years left to retirement, I can afford to put my money into a collection that also provides me insurance.
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