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 Posted 04/27/2011  10:01 am Show Profile   Bookmark this topic Add Alexzwarenstein to your friends list Get a Link to this Message Number of Subscribers
I would be interested to know the experience of anyone who has sold a high end silver dollar on ebay. I have a Morgan dollar that is worth, according to Red Book,one thousand to several thousand dollars. If I put it up on ebay with outstanding enlargements but with no reserve..what are the odds that it will find it's price.

Is there a better way?
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 Posted 04/27/2011  10:37 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add biokemist6 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
You would be much better off posting pics of the coin here first and getting some grading opinions. It is quite possible that you are grossly overestimating the value and/or grade of the coin. It is really hard to give any better advice since you did not provide any other information on the coin.
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 Posted 04/27/2011  11:35 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add SsuperDdave to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
To answer the question strictly on its' face, I wouldn't use ebay as a venue for such a coin. Better to consign with an auction house such as Heritage or Teletrade. It's in a reputable TPG slab, right? A Morgan worth a 4-digit price will not sell in a sight-unseen auction without being in a PCGS, NGC or ANACS slab.

Edit to add: You've already shown your ability to take excellent images in another thread. I would dearly love to see an example of a coin like this, here in this thread.
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 Posted 04/27/2011  12:02 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add carmykle to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Even us lowly collectors would like to see it also.
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 Posted 04/27/2011  1:14 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add w1a9c8k5 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
What would be the reason behind having no reverse pictures?
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I will post pictures by tomorrow. The coin is not in a slab. And, of course, there is lways the possibility Biokemist6, SuperDave,.. that I am wishful thinking. carmykle....no lowlier than I..a rank amateur..and, Mr.w1a9c8k5, the text reads reserve..not reverse.

I am most impressed by all the good will expressed by one and all. Thanks.
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 Posted 04/27/2011  2:43 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Alexzwarenstein to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
SuperDave, Biokemist6..I decided to post the coin now. I am standing by with trepidation. Waddya make of this?

http://img7.imageshack.us/img7/8049...9cctail1.jpg
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 Posted 04/27/2011  2:51 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add coinguybrian to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
It looks less than XF to me, and hence only $400. Might be still worth it to have it sent in to a reputable grading company if you have other coins to send in too.
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 Posted 04/27/2011  2:54 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add DavidZerbato to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I'm a novice at grading Morgans, but I would say EF-40, if there is significant mint luster left, hard to tell from pics, then maybe EF-45.
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 Posted 04/27/2011  3:11 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Alexzwarenstein to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I think this coin looks pretty good to my eye...definitely less than EF as you say ShadowCreator. But the Red Book,(2012 ed.)1879 cc, (clear cc ? not sure what that means) at these prices..EF40 at $750. AU50 at $1900. ms.60 at $4000. MS63,(mmmmaybe?)at$7000.

I understand that Red Book is Retail to buy..is the $400. you mention the realistic price? the blue book price?
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 Posted 04/27/2011  3:58 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add GRR to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
you can cross MS off your list. This coin is not MS. Still a nice coin. I think It's better than the xf 40's I've seen. Just looking at the ebay completed auctions, slabbed xf40's were in the 700-800 range, so I think if you got it graded, you'd be at least that good.
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 Posted 04/27/2011  4:52 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add chris12018 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Nice coin. I'd say XF40
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I agree this coin is nowhere near "High End" and I think it possibly be XF-40. 1879-CC Morgans are one of the key dates but they are in no way rare in this condition and are highly counterfeited. in my opinion the only way you would get around $400.00 for this coin is if it was sent to PCGS for grading and then only if it came back problem free and graded as XF-40. This coin would not even be considered High end but is still worth multiple thousands
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Usually when people say high end they mean MS-65 or above, or at least in the upper grades that have ever been found for that particular date/mm of the coin. Your coin is in a grade that is pretty common. Here is one on ebay in about the same condition as yours that you can watch to see how much a raw example sells for http://cgi.ebay.com/United-States-M...em43a6aa90d7
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I think that maybe I used the term 'high end', wrongly...not the condition so much as the date..with the thought it just might be good enough. I appreciate the input...so, theoretically... What are the variables that would persuade a serious seller to get a coin graded? is it always price? is there a cut off in terms of price that makes it not worth doing? I think it was Superdave some days/weeks ago who suggested that in general the disadvantage is the perception of having been cherry-picked?
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If you want to sell it, I would suggest getting it graded. That will allow the buyer to have more confidence in its authenticity and grade, and will allow you to get more money, especially on a site such as ebay. At a few hundred dollars, its probably worth it to get it graded. You should make up the cost in the sale price.
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usually as a rule of thumb for me is if the coin isn't worth 10-200 at least I don't ever send them in for grading. If I have one that is highly counterfeited and I am wanting to sell it, then I may submit it for grading if its around the 100.00 mark just so the buyer knows its real without question
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