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 Posted 10/18/2006  11:55 pm Show Profile   Bookmark this topic Add Bigfella to your friends list Get a Link to this Message Number of Subscribers
I have a 1923 Aussie Halfpenny in reasonable grade ($2000 coin) that has a spot of vedigris. Does anyone have a good way to get rid of my problem?
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 Posted 10/18/2006  11:58 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Guido to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Give it to me?

Otherwise, I can't help you.
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 Posted 10/19/2006  02:39 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Bigfella to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Nice idea Guido....but unfortunately I have a family to feed to I want to sell it....preferably without the dreaded green stuff.
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 Posted 10/19/2006  04:52 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add triggersmob to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Hi Bigfella. From previous posts, where this has been discussed, it seems that soaking in extra virgin olive oil is succesful. Although it may take awhile. Also pushing the coin into a raw potato works. You can use a combination of the two.

Good luck

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 Posted 10/19/2006  07:37 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add humpybong to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Try the virgin olive oil first, leave it soaking for at least a week.

If you use the potato method only leave it in the potato for about 15 mins.


There are a couple of experiments being done buy a couple of members of my coin club, but no firm results as yet. Will let you know if any positive fix has been found.

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 Posted 10/19/2006  07:47 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Sap to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Patience is your greatest asset, here. A moment of haste can easily wipe a few hundred off the value of the coin, it sounds like.

Olive oil is generally considered the most conservative treatment, and I'd start with that. Soak it for a week to a month and then try to remove it. But first, try the technique out on common coins with similar damage.

If you're going to wait until you're comfortable with the technique before starting on your prize, I'd recommend sealing it up in an airtight box with some silica gel or other dessicant - that should slow down the spread.
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 Posted 10/19/2006  09:02 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add TwoKopeiki to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
For a coin with such a high price tag - I would send it in to NCS to get conserved.

Just my opinion.
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 Posted 10/19/2006  09:57 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add gxseries to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Bigfella, before you do the olive oil experiment, I highly recommand you to do it with a common year penny, which would give you a good idea of what kind of reaction it might give out. But before you process with it, I would try to remove most of them with a toothpick gently as toothpick shouldn't scratch the coin, except the verdigris floating around will cause some problems, which can scratch the coin.

For a 2000 dollar coin, I would be extremely cautious with it.
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 Posted 10/19/2006  11:05 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add OldDan to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I have no idea if this would work or not, but how about Denatured Alcohol? As I've never tried this on this type of metal, I can't be sure that it wouldn't have some effect on the coin. Then again, what is there in this solution that could do any damage to the coin?
I do know that Alcohol stops vedigris in it's tracks and even removes the ugly green color. There will usually be damaged material below the goo however.
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 Posted 10/19/2006  11:56 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add TwoKopeiki to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
From personal experience, pure ammonia is great to remove "the green monster" on copper ... HOWEVER ... if left in ammonia too long - any patina will be completely stripped-off. I found it out by accidentally leaving a 1813 SUD Mexican 8Reales copper in the ammonia - now I own a bright-orange 200-year-old coin (no verdigris, though :) )

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 Posted 10/20/2006  11:43 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Snooba to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
quote:
Originally posted by TwoKopeiki

For a coin with such a high price tag - I would send it in to NCS to get conserved.


Is there an Australian version of NCS that could help with your half-penny?
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 Posted 10/21/2006  12:28 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Irishraider to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I would soak it in the olive oil. If it isn't too big of a spot it should take around a month to a month and a half. I soaked some copper and nickel coins in an olive oil bath for a month and most came out fairly good. I had to stick three of them back in and they have been in for another week. A toothpick and or q-tip works the best for getting the green off. I could have done with one of those big magnifiers with the light however. It is kind of tough cleaning one up without one of those, my eyes can't take all the squinting anymore. Good luck.

P.S. Use some acetone to dip in when you are done with the soak to get the oil off of the surface and then rinse in distilled water after that and gently pat dry with a soft cotton ball. Mine weren't worth $2k though so I didn't rinse off after the acetone or distilled water however.

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