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Valued Member
United Kingdom
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I have this 1933 Chinese Junk silver dollar. A nice example, UNC. I was hoping to get some opinions on grading - I've had opinions from MS60 -64. Anyone got any thoughts? Would really be appreciated. Thanks.    www.kingstoncoincompany.co.uk
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United States
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Looks like some rub in a few places.... I'd say AU-53, or AU-55
The Danester
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Pillar of the Community
United States
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Yea this one looks like a slider. Could be MS if you get a liberal grader, but certainly in the low end of MS.
At the very least your coin appears genuine, unlike so many of these.
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04/28/2011 8:09 pm
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Can't help ya as I haven't a clue what to base it on. Appears circulated though.
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 United Kingdom
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Yeah fortunately I had no doubts its the genuine article, as you say these are hugely faked. Strange when I got peoples' opinion in hand they tended to have a higher opinion of the grade - looking now it certainly looks much better in hand, but then perhaps the photo is picking up on the wear better. Just decideing if it's worth getting slabbed....
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United States
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Definitely worth getting slabbed, even if it's an AU - these go for crazy prices when slabbed.
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United States
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may I ask how you know it is genuine? The reason I ask is because when I first saw it, I thought is was a counterfeit because of what appears to be a spot of corrosion or rust. That seemed like an odd spot to me for a silver coin. I am not doubting that it is genuine if you say it is but I am curious to know (so I can avoid buying fakes) how you know it is real.
thanks
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United States
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Weavus,
Jeff has undoubtedly confirmed the weight of the coin. When buying coins online you often get a picture only, and if you get a weight in the description it is often a reference weight rather than that of the actual coin. The best thing in this situation is to buy from someone that has a solid reputation for selling such coins.
As far as pictures are concerned, this one has all the signs of a genuine piece.
All the details and rim are correct. Also, you can tell from the picture that it is a high purity silver coin. Silver is the most luminescent (brightest shining) metal known to man, and counterfeits are made of a much more dull looking alloy.
Perhaps the most clearly visible sign that this is a genuine struck coin is the "ghosting" of the bust on the side with the ship. This is not something you see on cast coins.
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04/30/2011 03:01 am
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Greece
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Jeff this coin is a ms63-64 coin.You must slab it because there is a crazy market for such coins when slabbed.In last heritage action sold for crazy numbers.As you are from Europe the most appropriate is PCGS Paris office.These submissions offered only for dealers and it will be a grading session in 11 May in Paris with Graders from L.A.Here in Greece we have two official dealers.In UK I believe there will be many more.Send it over with someone.
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United Kingdom
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Numismat - couldn't have put it better myself. Indeed I have confirmed the weight, and when in hand there really is little doubt. Weavus, as Numismat said, only buy such higher value pieces online from solid dealers. When you see pieces in person with dealers at fairs etc, look at and handle as many as possible, get a feel for them.
Thank you all for advice on slabbing. I will get it slabbed -I was going to send a batch of 40 coins, mainly higher grade Chinese, to NGC in the US - but the prospect of having them done in Europe would be great! epop do you have any details or a website for this event? I'll try googleing it thouh see what I can find out.
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http://www.pcgs.com/Dealers/default...5&mn=5&cc=UKThese are the UK certified dealers for PCGS.I can see that they are quite big companies.My friend in Athens wanted 25 euros per coin to the 300 euros value. shipping back to me included.He deliver the coins himself to Paris.I sent also some coins to NGC but it's difficult to clear out with the tax office.Here in Greece they get crazy sometimes.
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United Kingdom
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Thanks epop. I might try Dix Noonan Webb as I have a friend with good contacts there. Customs is my worry also with shipping to the states. I have done it once before without a problem, but was only 5 coins and total value was quite low, less than $2000. NGC shipped the coins back as numismatic material and put a 0 value, which I suppose is fine as no sale has taken place, but then if they go missing......nothing can be done. So bit of a risk envolved for a fairly high value lot. I'll definately try the Paris route - Thanks again.
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thanks Numis and Jeff. I don't buy a lot of silver coins for the most obvious reason of not being able to afford them. But to know what to look for is important. I'm always very cautious about buying any expensive coin online (especially ebay). I appreciate the tips. |
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Perhaps you might look at my one too...it does look rather dull which is making me worried now...but the design and features look spot on..?  |
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