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 Posted 04/29/2011  01:33 am Show Profile   Bookmark this topic Add 1893S to your friends list Get a Link to this Message Number of Subscribers
Would someone be so kind to post a couple of different examples of a PCGS or NGC MS60 graded Morgan. Thank you.....
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 Posted 04/29/2011  10:03 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add mshev to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
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 Posted 04/29/2011  12:09 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add 1893S to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I am looking for someone on this forum to post their own examples of MS60 graded coins by NGC or PCGS. I can't post photos but I think it would be very helpful for Forum members to see a few TPG examples..... Thanks ahead of time if anyone would be so kind.
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 Posted 04/29/2011  1:57 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Bryan1315 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I don't have any graded that low all of mine are MS-63 through MS-68
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 Posted 04/29/2011  2:13 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add w1a9c8k5 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
through ms68...............must be nice
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 Posted 04/29/2011  3:17 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add 1893S to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Yeah Bryan, I have only 1-MS62 and none graded lower. I have many graded MS63-67 and I was hoping that some people on this Forum would have a few MS60's or even some 61's to share. My wish to see these examples are for various reasons but because I've seen Forum members grade Posters coins MS60-61 for various reasons I thought some TPG examples would be fitting for discussion.
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 Posted 04/29/2011  3:40 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add mshev to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
The PCGS link I posted, while not a member's 60/61, still demonstrates actual coins graded 60/61 by PCGS.
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 Posted 04/29/2011  4:00 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add 1893S to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Yes, I know, I'm not interested in that as their examples are mediocre at best and they only show 1 example. You need to look at many examples to get an idea of the variables. Thanks, mshev.
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 Posted 04/29/2011  7:32 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Sidekick-CA to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
None here either but take a look at http://coins.shop.ebay.com/i.html?_...md=1&_ipg=50 for some NGC MS60's on ebay and http://coins.shop.ebay.com/i.html?_...md=1&_ipg=50 for some PCGS MS60's. Should give you quite a wide variance.
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 Posted 04/29/2011  8:17 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add 1893S to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I don't think you folks are understanding the point of this thread! I have been colecting Morgans since 1968 and have seen thousands of examples of MS60/61's. I thought if we could get some posts up of Forum members examples we could discuss and use for future reference when grading. I don't consider myself the ultimate coin grader but I've seen and graded my share.I have though witnessed many coins posted here that folks have graded 60 or 61 only referencing nicks in the field or on the face never mentioning their thoughts on the coins Luster or Strike which are the biggest factor in giving a Morgan its grade...myself included. anyways...anyone have any examples that they can post, not links to other sites? Thanks again..
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 Posted 04/29/2011  10:32 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add SsuperDdave to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
The problem we face, 1893S (and I say we because I'm having the same trouble while soliciting images from forum members) is that people generally don't collect them. I'm going to have to loot Heritage for MS60-61, I think.
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 Posted 04/29/2011  11:18 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add 1893S to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Yeah, Thanks Dave...I think this would help us all in understanding MS grading. When I see a persons coin graded MS60/61 I wonder how they/we come up with this grade as bagmarks alone will not give you this. Up until about 1980, + or - a few years we considered all BU coins(MS60-to about MS64) as MS60, unless they were Gems, and then we considered them MS65. With this being said, I am really interested in an MS60 grade. I suppose only Key Dates are submitted for grading in what is considered MS60 condition as to get above the AU grade.
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 Posted 04/29/2011  11:31 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add SsuperDdave to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Honestly, man, MS61 fascinates me. MS60 is a kind of default - "It's Uncirculated, but FUGLY - and MS62 can be an MS63 wannabee. But MS61? Tough. In my opinion, the toughest grade to achieve.
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 Posted 04/29/2011  11:35 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add 1893S to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Also Dave, I guarantee you that if any of us on the Forum had lots of $$$ and we hade the opportunity to buy an MS60 graded Key Date Morgan instead of an AU and without the possibility of aquiring any grade higher we would do it in a minute!
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1893S: I post a bunch of links for you. Most MS60 graded coins are "details" grades but I'll sort those out and list some problem free pieces. You will likely need a Teletrade and Heritage membership to view the close-up images but this should help.

Here you go. I picked 1900 and 1921 for examples.

http://www.teletrade.com/coins/lot....437&lot=1601
http://www.teletrade.com/coins/lot....326&lot=1780
http://coins.ha.com/common/view_ite...ype=PCGS1105
http://www.teletrade.com/coins/lot....339&lot=2065
http://www.teletrade.com/coins/lot....imagetype=j2
http://coins.ha.com/common/view_ite...pe=PCGS22012
http://coins.ha.com/common/view_ite...pe=PCGS66013

The realized price on this Teletrade auction just kills me. $15 for a Mint State PCGS slabbed Morgan! It was only 4 1/2 years ago!
http://www.teletrade.com/coins/lot....imagetype=j2
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 Posted 04/30/2011  12:16 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add 1893S to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
PLEASE, I DON'T WANT LINKS!! I own MS60/61 raw coins. I can't upload photos to show!! Thanks for the effort BH1964....This is not for me personally, it is for us all on the Forum in an attempt of mine for future use here on the Forum..
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