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I'm sorry that I'm back so soon, but I just found these coins and I find them really beautiful. But I'm getting suspicious when the condition is such good and not worn at all. But the seller claims though that these coins are 100% authentic, so what do you say?

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I'm no expert on ancients but the bottom one definitly looks fake. Top one, ?
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Yeah, they are most likely fake.
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2good2btru

They look far too nice to be that old.
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First coin appears to be Constantine II and #2 appears to be Constantius Gallus. Both are real.
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echizento is the man!
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How much are you paying for them ngdawa?
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So they are real? I thought just as rachums107, that they were just too good to be true. But hten again, are they cleaned, because it looks like they're...new?

I haven't bought them yet since I wasn't sure if they were real or not, but the austion just started so the price is just US$0.99 so far, so maybe I should give it a shot?
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I must disagree with echizento about these coins, but only as to the identity of the emperors. I too believe they are in fact both genuine.

The top coin looks unquestionably genuine. The obverse legend is "CONSTANTINVS MAX AVG - and only one "Constantine" dared to call himself "The Great" on his coins, Constantine I. Nicomedia mint, officina beta. This one's the same except it's officina alpha.

For the second coin, Constantius Gallus was never augustus (senior imperial rank), only caesar (junior rank). His coins always have a variant of the legend DN CONSTANTIVS NOB CAES. The legend on this one is clearly DN CONSTANTIVS PF AVG - the senior rank. So it must be a coin of Constantius II (since the FEL TEMP horseman-slayer design had not been introduced when Constantius I was emperor).

I was sceptical about this coin, but not because it "looked too nice". Genuine Roman bronze coins can indeed look very nice - not "uncirculated", but nearly so. I was sceptical about it because of the very unusual portrait, with its prominent nose and bulging eyes, quite different from the usual gracile portrayal this emperor normally received on his coins.

But searching through Wildwinds, this particular mint (Siscia) at this particular time did indeed use some rather unorthodox portraits. Here's another funky portrait from this same mint and officina, officina alpha. This one's from officina beta.
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Woow, thanks alot Sap!

And I thank you all for your inputs!
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Sap is correct on coin #2,I went by the portrait and not the inscription novice mistake on my part. On coin #1 I couldn't make out if it was MAX which would make it Constantine I or MV which would make it Constantine II. So I went with II. As always Sap is the man with the correct answer.
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