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Danester Valued Member United States 213 Posts	Posted 05/03/2011 2:35 pm Last month I auctioned some Morgan VAM's on ebay that all came from a lot of 160 Mint State Morgan dollars I purchased in 2005 from a Cleveland lady. The woman said she had the Morgan dollars for more than 35-years, and they were wrapped in bank-marked paper rolls. I found about 30 VAM's in this lot, with eight (8) being 1889-P VAM 19B's (Pre-Barwing) that were all from the same die state. The die state is the same as shown on VAMWorld.com for 1889-P VAM-19B with the exception of the die clash in front Liberty's throat -- the die state of these coins have gone past the faint "IN" to non-existent. Otherwise, all the other die markers are present. http://www.vamworld.com/1889-P+VAM-19B Die clash mark of "IN" in front of Liberty's throat, next stage faint. Clash marks around upper left wreath. Date location and die cracks I have 4 of these 1889-P VAM-19B (Pre-Barwing) die varieties remaining, and will be auctioning them on ebay this coming week - the first one ends tonight. The Danester Edited by Danester 05/03/2011 11:51 pm Report this Post to the Staff

Bryan1315 Bedrock of the Community United States 14454 Posts	Posted 05/04/2011 2:37 pm ok what is the question here? Are you just trying to spark interest in your ebay item here since you do not have enough posts to do it by the rules? Report this Post to the Staff
Danester Valued Member United States 213 Posts	Posted 05/04/2011 4:53 pm Since the die clashes in front of Liberty's throat are not visible (on all 8 examples that I found) I was hoping someone might comment on this possibly being a transitional stage between 1889-P VAM 19B and 19A Barwing. The Danester Edited by Danester 05/04/2011 4:57 pm Report this Post to the Staff
Bryan1315 Bedrock of the Community United States 14454 Posts	Posted 05/04/2011 6:05 pm I don't see any of your pictures so can't comment on that, the pictures I see are directly from VW except for the die crack at the bottom of the neck so not sure what to tell you yours is without seeing pictures. It could be a later die state and the tail bar had been polished away but all this is purely speculation without seeing pictures Report this Post to the Staff
Danester Valued Member United States 213 Posts	Posted 05/04/2011 6:41 pm The examples I found, have all the dies markers as shown above, except there are no clash marks "IN" in front of Liberty's throat. That leads me to believe that this area was the first to transition to the Barwing stage. http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dl...RK:MESELX:IT The Danester Report this Post to the Staff
aladinslamp Pillar of the Community United States 3076 Posts	Posted 05/04/2011 11:35 pm I will have to agree, full photos to see just whats going on...vam 19/19A and also VAM 22 are all inter- related. Pictures always hold a 1000 words or arguments hehehe... Report this Post to the Staff
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