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2011 Venetian Glass Ladybug $20 Silver Coin?

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 Posted 11/21/2016  09:20 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add JGG to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I was in Paris this summer and very very good copies were for sale in the market for 25 Euros.
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 Posted 11/21/2016  11:38 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add wildflowerAB to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
This is a good example of one of the biggest downsides of individuals selling higher priced NCLT on ebay.

It's also contrary to my own level of buying anything on ebay from a private seller, regardless of where they live. My limit is about $200max. I figure between the risk of counterfeit (most often con artists are not going to photograph the fake if it's being passed off as an original), including not getting the same coin as was photographed or not receiving the order, etc, just to me not worth the risk if it turns into a hassle. Even if I have to pay a little more, I go with a reputable dealer and think of it as insurance.
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 Posted 11/21/2016  12:51 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add CC-Ottawa to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Personally, I can't imagine anyone buying from mainland China without assuming it's counterfeit. From sports jerseys to purses to toothpaste to NCLT, it's just too common there to trust any seller.

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 Posted 11/21/2016  8:09 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add silverwolf to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
ok, I am not going to defend China as a whole.because yes that is where a lot of bad stuff comes from... but what about this seller and their products are we thinking counterfeit. has anyone checked their feedback? has anyone checked their past sales? or current items for sale?

you may not want to buy from China , but do it for the right reason..

i wouldn't buy this coin because it is priced out of my budget..and the current market for this coin, not because this particular seller is in China..

Just saying, if he was selling fake morgans, and maples, and others then I say o.k. boycott, this seller.

I'm done here ..
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I agree with Silverwolf. Racial stereotyping is unbecoming, regardless what the form.

Besides that, in case anyone ever noticed, RCM produces more NCLT with Asian based themes than for any other ethic group, much of it on the high end of pricing. That suggests RCM considers Asians to be a valued sector of their customer base and it wouldn't be surprising that some of their product makes its way back to China.
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Racial stereotyping is unbecoming, regardless what the form.


If you're referring to my comments, there was nothing racial involved nor did I comment on the particular coin or seller from the ebay listing.

China is widely know as a source of many, many counterfeit products. You do realise that they even knock off cars there, right?

http://driving.ca/lexus/auto-news/e...inal-designs

There is simply no regard in the Chinese legal system or courts for product design, IP or copyright laws. I could get very industry specific but to keep this to NCLT, just look at the site that is the subject of this Wall Street Journal article. You will literally see hundreds of counterfeit RCM coins being offered in bulk. This should not be news to anyone.

http://www.wsj.com/articles/brands-accuse-(Not Allowed)-of-not-doing-enough-to-stop-sale-of-counterfeit-goods-1475898037

I would not expect to buy a genuine item from China any more than I would expect to buy real Cuban cigars in the Dominican Republic. YMMV. Doesn't mean I wouldn't buy a cigar in DR, but I would certainly be aware if I did.


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Seller from China = 100% counterfeit
Seller from elsewhere = 100% authentic


Sorry but this conclusion is 100% flawed. You can likely buy a counterfeit from a seller located in every corner of the world. You can likely also buy a real item from a seller in every corner of the world. The difference is probability.

edited for spelling.
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Sorry but this conclusion is 100% flawed.


You're 100% correct.
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