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2011 Venetian Glass Ladybug $20 Silver Coin?

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 Posted 07/10/2016  01:06 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add darryldarryl to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Just lucky, had no idea the coin would pop like it did.
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 Posted 07/10/2016  12:17 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Silveroid to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
You right guys, there is a demand.

But I look at myself as average NCLT collector, this coin I got from CC&C for $500 and after 2 years, when the overproduction "established" for NCLT , sold it locally for $800.

The new collector was so happy, that got it relatively for low. And I thought then and now: "What for he needed this expensive coin, while each month huge amount of NCLT minted? ".

Is this really "must to have one"?
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 Posted 07/10/2016  3:25 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add MoneyPenney to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply

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Ever since it has served as the benchmark in the sense that it demonstrated not all coins drop in value.....even though since it was issued, hundreds if not almost a thousand different ones did.


I don't call the Ladybug coin the benchment for NCLT coins.
I call it an anomaly. Since it has been released there have been only a handful of NCLT coins that have not drop in price.

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 Posted 07/10/2016  3:48 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add wildflowerAB to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
As humans, it seems we have a tendency to measure everything to the highest common denominator. Whether it be recalling the one year with the harshest or hottest weather, the family member who achieved more than all the others, the highest building or oldest tree, for that matter what's in the Guiness Book of Records -- as a society we thrive on recognition of what rises to the top. Nothing necessarily wrong with that, just the way it is.

So I think the Ladybug falls into that same category. It's a privilege to own it and judging by its mention from time to time, it's on its way to becoming a sort of urban legend. No other NCLT appears to have the opportunity to rival its distinction, considering RCMs current manner of high velocity releases. I'm not an owner of one but t I can understand why it sustains its popularity, regardless of the price tag.

Some might compare it to the 2oz Voyageur and yes indeed, there are some similarities. Except the Ladybug and the entire series are of worldwide scope, as opposed to themes primarily recognized by Canadians.
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 Posted 11/20/2016  12:17 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Nubee to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
It looks like the fat "S" on the dollars may give this one away immediately as a counterfeit.
Even though the seller is top rated

http://www.ebay.ca/itm/Canada-20-Do...AOSwo4pYMGxd

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 Posted 11/20/2016  12:51 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Silveroid to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
The "S " looks very suspicious, true. Otherwise coin doesn't looks like bad fake. But I do not see box and coa, and the seller's location - better not to touch this.
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 Posted 11/20/2016  7:16 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add silverwolf to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
there is nothing fake about this coin or the seller..
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 Posted 11/20/2016  8:08 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Silveroid to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply

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there is nothing fake about this coin or the seller..


Now I see the box and the COA.
Looks like ebay mobile site shows not all info.
But anyway, I doubtful that someone will take a risk and send USD 800+ to the seller's location.
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 Posted 11/20/2016  9:24 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add JGG to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Too many fakes out there for me to touch this one.
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 Posted 11/20/2016  9:43 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add onecad to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Is it the fat "S" in dollars that have folks here worried or the "S" in Shanghai, China?
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 Posted 11/20/2016  11:29 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add MoneyPenney to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply

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there is nothing fake about this coin or the seller..



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It looks like the fat "S" on the dollars may give this one away immediately as a counterfeit


I pulled out my Ladybug coin and the S on my coin is definitely a regular "s" and not the big "s" I see I the picture.

Unless the RCM minted a variation of the Ladybug coin, either the ebay listing is a counterfeit or I have a fake.

Since I bought my coin many years before it hit the $1000 mark, I think the ebay listing is a fake.

Having a COA means nothing when it could be faked plus those clamshells can be bought anywhere.
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11/20/2016 11:30 pm
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 Posted 11/21/2016  07:54 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Nubee to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I also checked mine before I listed this and mine is definitely slimmer.

"Having a COA means nothing when it could be faked plus those clamshells can be bought anywhere." AGREED
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 Posted 11/21/2016  08:42 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add wildflowerAB to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
This coin looks to me like the typical result when using a flash on the mirrored and polished fields of a coin. It has a common tendency to cast weird and unusual reflections often creating an unreliable image. That a counterfeit would be so flawlessly perfect in all other regards including the accuracy of the coloured areas but then glaringly reveal itself to be a fake because of a seemingly obvious oversized S? That's a bit of stretch....

Yes it's wise that we always be on the lookout for fakes but rendering any kind of useful opinion on only this poor photo is impossible. The right thing to do is contact the seller for better photos, otherwise us making unfounded allegations here just does not seem right. If Ladybugs are being counterfeited, there's obviously more than just one.


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Is it the fat "S" in dollars that have folks here worried or the "S" in Shanghai, China?


Good question!
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11/21/2016 08:47 am
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I think shipping from China is the biggest red flag
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I think shipping from China is the biggest red flag



The problem with that is it then leads to the risky conclusion that

Seller from China = 100% counterfeit
Seller from elsewhere = 100% authentic

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