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Ebay Listing Removed After Paying And Receiving Slabbed Coin

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I've never had this happen before. About a week after receiving my coin and leaving feedback ebay sends me this email:

"Unfortunately, we had to remove this listing and cancel all bids. We don't like to remove listings -- it's disappointing for everyone -- but sometimes we need to do it.

There are three main reasons why we remove listings:
-- The listing doesn't follow ebay guidelines.
-- The item isn't allowed on ebay or can only be listed under certain conditions.
-- The listing contains pictures or words that may create copyright or trademark issues.

If the seller is able to fix the problem and relist the item, we hope you'll bid on it again.
"

I called them up and they were glad I received my coin but couldn't give me any more info. There is no longer any record of the auction, even feedback was removed.

Now I'm worried something is wrong with the coin or seller or something.

It was a PCGS First Strike 1/2 oz Gold Eagle, pics below:

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Other than the slab having lots of scratches I can't see anything wrong but I've never owned a slabbed coin before.

Thanks for your opinion of this.



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 Posted 05/15/2011  6:52 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add nickelsearcher to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
to the forum.

I have no clue about the e-bay message ... but a quick check on your coins PCGS certification number confirms it is indeed as stated.

From here the coin looks genuine ... I would not worry about it too much ... perhaps the seller made a bad error in e-bay view ...

Hoping others might have additional insight.

David
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Maybe there's something in the description text they didn't like
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 Posted 05/15/2011  6:57 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add GoThunder to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Thanks for the replies, I sent a message to the seller and he said after spending 45 min on the phone with ebay he still doesn't understand why it was removed either.

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 Posted 05/15/2011  8:04 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Frazzle to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I recently bought a coin and it was sent to me in a prompt manner...Now,after leaving positive feedback,I see that he is no longer a registered user...The guy had over a thousand feedbacks and all were positive,so I have no idea what happened!
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I found one of the reasons they won't tell you what went on is if shill bidding was reported on an auction, they usually yank/cancel and suspend the user.
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... busted...... But that doesn't mean he was selling fakes, or bad coins though, because that is very nice...
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 Posted 05/16/2011  5:08 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add muddler to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
What is "shill bidding"?
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when an ebayer has 2 accounts and bids on his own items with the 2nd account
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 Posted 05/17/2011  08:09 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add GoThunder to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I'm pretty sure there wasn't any shill bidding on this auction. There were less bids than other similar auctions and I got a pretty good deal. I remember thinking that Monday morning must be a good time to find deals because of the lack of other bidders. My max bid was not hit and no one came in at the last minute. I was actually worried the seller wouldn't send the coin and he would just refund my money it was such a good deal.

I suspect it had something to do with the wording of the title or description using the "First Strike" designation.
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E-bay must be doing something because I had the exact same e-mail on a Note purchase a month ago and then he came up as no longer a registered user. Then after a few weeks I get a e-bay message from him asking if I got the note and if it was ok because he got no feedback. I told him, uh well I would have left you feedback but e-bay said you were no longer a registered user. Well lo and behold he was registered again with the same name and all his feedback back and he had a lot. He didn't have any idea why he was listed as no longer being registered either. I think he got caught and had his acct suspended.
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I listed a graded coin a segs I belive. I used the segs name in the title and they cancelled it on me. Reason segs isn't a certified ebay TPG. I relisted it with out the segs in the title and sold it. Same thing with graded sports cards only ebay certified TPG are allowed to be used in title. ebay support is basically worthless. I talked to a person who told my package was delivered to the wrong address. He was saying the 4 digit sorting number which is on the end of your zipcode was the reason. The post office told me that wasn't the case.
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I recently bought a coin and it was sent to me in a prompt manner...Now,after leaving positive feedback,I see that he is no longer a registered user...The guy had over a thousand feedbacks and all were positive,so I have no idea what happened!

This could be because the seller didn't pay his ebay fee's so ebay suspended his account for that reason and it will show up as no longer registered user. This could have been the reason for coinnut's situation also. I have seen people wait until ebay suspends their account before they pay their balance owed and this happens about a month after each time they sell something
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 Posted 06/11/2011  02:56 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Mikecouil to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
More than likely it was shill bidding. There is nothing wrong with the coin obviously. The fact that you got a deal leads me to believe it's all the more likely it was a shill.

A couple years ago I sold a silver lot of coins on ebay. It was a pretty decent little collection. My step daughters Grandmother bid on them using her ebay ID, which she had since 1997 with over 200 feedback, but did so from my home computer, and even though she won the auction ebay cancelled the auction and suspended me while I had 2 other silver lots running. I called them and they said that in the future if I want to have a friend or family bid they must do so either with a buy it now auction or from another computer at a different address. I was suspended 14 days and had to take a quiz on shill bidding before I was reinstated.

There is a guy who used to work for me who listed fishing gear on his user ID from my house during his down time. His wife was the daughter of the owner of our local bait shop and they found they could get far more for the bait online than they were charging at their brick and mortar store. The ebay business took off VERY quickly and they were doing thousands a month in sales. They actually set up a terminal at the bait shop so that customers could bid on clearance items and it was a huge success, until they began listing the items from the same location. ebay didn't even give the guy a warning. They shut down a power seller account that was doing 4k per month in sales with projected sales of 8-12k per month within 3 months. I was beyond shocked. He tried everything on the phone with them and they never did reopen the account. They ended up opening up a new account under the bait store name and hired an IT guy to come and set up different IPs.
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Interesting, thanks for the info.
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More than likely it was shill bidding.


Ridiculous speculation. If you're going to speculate shill bidding is the absolute least likely scenario since it's almost impossible to prove even by ebay.

The most likely scenario is something in the description, like posting a value, a link to a price guide, saying anything remotely suggesting that Paypal isn't preferred, using a stock photo, not showing photos of both sides of the slab ..... the list of infractions that would get the listing removed goes on and on....
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